Re: Religious Emblem
Peter Hickey (phickey@MAIL.REGENTS.PEACHNET.EDU)
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:30:54 -0500
This topic was discussed a few months ago. The thread is a good one. I
post the following message from the previous thread because I can see that
it is an obvious next question. I hope Mike Walton does not mind my posting
>Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:07:24 -0500
>To: firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com
>From: "settummanque, or blackeagle (Mike Walton)" <blkeagle@Dynasty.Net>
>Subject: Re: Religious Emblem
>Peter Hickey asked a very *important* question:
>>Catholic scouts earn the Light of Christ as a Tiger or Wolf - is the
>>appropriate device the Cub Scout device - even if earned as a Tiger?
>>They can then earn the Parvuli Dei as a Bear or Webelos - is the
>>appropriate device the Webelos device even if earned as a Bear? Or if
>>earned as a Bear and the appropriate device is the Cub Scout device do
>>they wear two Cub Scout devices assuming the answer to the Light of >Christ
>is the Cub Scout Device).
>It's important because I've failed here and on the webpage (which I'll
>change this afternoon or evening, thanks for the information!!) about the
>"stages" of the religious emblems program.
>The relgious emblems programs are NOT a BSA program; restated, the BSA has
>little to NO CONTROL over the content of the religious emblems program other
>than to provide a way for youth and adults to be suitably
>recognized for their religious education and service to others.
>When the first religious emblems were made available for Scouts to earn,
>there were only a Boy Scout and in very few instances an Explorer version of
>With the improved Cub Scouting program, the various religious bodies
>expanded their religious education program to include younger boys and girls
>(a short reminder: everything we've been discussing here has direct
>correlation to Girl Scouting, 4-H, and other youth programs. Only the square
>knot and devices belong to the BSA).
>Then, both Girl and Boy Scouting added younger youth programs and the
>various religious groups added a still younger component to their education
>Today, most of the "mainline" religious groups offer religious awards in the
>Early Elementary (Tiger Cub, Wolf Cub Scouts)
>Later Elementary (Bear Cub Scouts, WEBELOS Cub Scouts)
>Middle Grades (Boy Scouts)
>High School * (Varsity Scouts, Explorers)
>Adult (Service awards for adult Scouters)
>*The LDS and I believe two other church groups offer two emblems
>specificially for Varsity Scouts and Explorers; most groups "lump" the
>Explorer and Varsity-aged youth together)
>So, in answering the questions above:
>One: Yes, the appropriate device is the Cub Scout device, since the early
>elementary award can be earned by either Tiger Cub or Cub Scout.
>Two: The approprivate device is the WEBELOS Cub Scout device, but I don't
>think that anyone will complain if the Cub wore two Cub Scout devices
>side-by-side to denote the two Cub Scouting awards he earned.
>But the WEBELOS Cub Scout device was specifically developed for those youth
>that have earned the later elementary emblem either as a Bear Cub Scout or
>as a first or second year WEBELOS Cub Scout.
>Hope this additional information helps, Peter....and all of you others out
>there that wanted to know as well. I'll add this to the webpage this evening!
>(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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