Fw: Another problem with the council
Jason A. Cruse (jcruse@NEMONET.COM)
Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:09:47 -0600
I tried to send this last week, but think it must've gotten lost in the
problems over the weekend with the server.
> From: Jason A. Cruse <email@example.com>
> To: Scouts-l <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: Another problem with the council
> Date: Sunday, November 16, 1997 8:12 AM
> Am I just cursed?
> I know I just wrote something about troubles with professionals not long
> ago. And, I said some things I shouldn't have, and have taken care of
> those things privately with others on the list. But this week, my new
> experience takes the cake, and almost put me out of scouting...
> Not long ago, I was in the office of a member of the committee. He was
> chatting with the scout exec, and, since I was there, asked about the
> council assisting units with uniforms. We are, as I've said before, a
> "poor" unit in terms of finances. Our chartered partners resources are
> limited, and we are in a small community without much support for
> so we don't get a lot of outside assistance.
> Anyway, this call was on the speaker phone, so I heard it. The committee
> member explained all of this to the scout exec, just curious what the
> response might be. The scout execs answer was that if we could show that
> the chartered partner doesn't have the resources to assist, and we have
> tried other avenues, the council could provide assistance to buy new
> uniforms (at least part of the cost--for at least shirts) for
> troops. They have done it before, he said, for troops that were hurt in
> our big flood of 1993--even to buy new equipment for them.
> Satisfied with this response, I formulated a letter, with our COR, and
> it. In about 2 1/2 pages, we explained our funds and asked for help from
> the council with new shirts, as he had said could happen.
> 10 days pass...
> Friday, I got my answer, in the form of the DE coming to my office with 4
> pairs of shorts, a den leader's shirt, and one scout shirt that is more
> for a Cub. No letter from the scout exec. No call. The DE's words
> (notice, I quote here): "This is all we had in the council office. We
> don't do anything else to supply uniforms or equipment."
> Now, I realize that DE's don't make council policies. However, in this
> case, he at least showed himself as the *instrument* of council policy,
> which policy appears to go completely against what I had previously been
> told. And, since the council has otherwise been silent on the matter, I
> have to assume that he was speaking with some authority.
> I have just about had it with this. I'll not make blanket statements--it
> has been made clear to me that they are not accurate, so that's fine.
> However, in 3 months as scoutmaster, I've had no less than 3 times when
> council/district has given me bogus, incorrect, or flat out wrong
> information, or I have been told one thing by one person and corrected by
> If I hadn't had such a good orienteering campout with my boys this
> (which is why I'm here in the first place), I honestly think my days
> be numbered. If this sort of thing happened this consistently with my
> "superiors" at a place of business, I'd be gone.
> Sorry to take up so many lines. I have calmed down since Friday, but am
> obviously still bothered by the whole thing.
> "There are no points for second place."
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City