Re: Council vs. Local Patches
Derleth, Michael (mderleth@ELI.NET)
Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:04:27 -0500
Other uniform gurus will probably have all kinds of detail, but
the basics are:
1. Council strips were introduced in mid-late 70s, as I remember.
2. As Council strips were introduced, City/state patches died out.
3. As for current troops using the city/state thing, I can suggest
two possible options. They either stocked up -big- when council
strips were introduced, or they have had new patches made in the
old format as their "troop uniform standard".
4. Are new patches in the old city/state format legal? I don't
know. Big picture there is a familiarity built with the city/
state strips, but the Council patches are more decorative.
Why did national change? Possibly the cost of doing hundreds of
individual cities, and keeping track of the inventory. Possibly
to underscore the underlying council support structure that all
units enjoy. Possibly just to brighten uniforms and "get with
the times" instead of staying with a stodgy decades-old design.
Possibly to open up a new fund-raising source with patch collectors?
Possibly all or none of these reasons.
Michael Derleth MDerleth@ELI.NET
ASM T14 Vancouver, WA Eagle Scout Staffer SR-177
Back when I was a youth, we used a rocker patch to indicate our town and
When I returned to scouting as an adult, we are using the council patch
the left shoulder.
My curiosity is:
1. When did this change take place and why?
2. I have seen some troops with the old rocker patch and their troop
on their shoulder INSTEAD of the council patch....so is there an insignia
guide rule that allows for this?
Personally, I always thought it neat to be able to tell where a scout was
from without asking, merely looking at his shoulder patch. Now one must
Any other opinions or thoughts?
Kevin S. Woods
Scoutmaster Troop 111
Historic District DWC Training Chairperson
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