Re: Moving up without Mom (was "several comments ...")
Charles R. Batteau (charles.r.batteau@BELLATLANTIC.COM)
Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:10:37 -0500
You stated that "I don't plan to move up with my boys. I truly want
them to cut the purse strings, especially my son, and move on to
Scouts without me."
I truly hope that you will reconsider, at least in one sense of the
word. Unless you STILL have another boy in the pack, your son's new
troop WILL need your help. If you don't want to serve as a direct
leader (i.e., Assistant Scoutmaster), there are many functions in the
troop committee which often go begging because nobody is willing to
commit to doing them.
Your son will still need your help, although (as you feel appropriate)
it may be more indirect than it is today. As a bonus to you, you WILL
learn how a Boy Scout troop operates, what motivates the boys, etc.
BTW, you should also take the "Scoutmaster Fundamentals" course -- it
is also MOST APPROPRIATE for ALL committee members!
For your other questions ... The Webelos book has MOST of what the
boys will need to prepare them for the transition to Boy Scouts. For
yourself, you might want to purchase a Boy Scout Handbook, but use it
just for informational purposes -- don't push the Boy Scout program to
As to getting the boys working on requirements at home, you may need
to provide some incentives. Remember that at this age boys need almost
immediate gratification. Perhaps a small award/reward for those who
HAVE worked on requirements since the last den meeting ...
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In an earlier post, you stated that you might try moving to "the more
Patrol oriented group in year 2 after they've had some interaction
with the Boy Scouts at Summer Camp." I would generally recommend
against doing this, but rather give the Denner MORE responsibility,
and perhaps having the Denner serve for two months rather than one.
There is too great a chance that, upon moving to the troop, they'd see
the patrol structure and say "Been there, done that." If they see
what the Boy Scouts do in the patrol setting, they will have something
to look forward to upon bridging up to Boy Scouts. They will also be
more ready for it.
In our "new Scout" patrol, the Patrol Leader is chosen by the boys but
serves as PL for only two months. This gives each boy a chance to see
what being a PL is like, what goes on in the Patrol Leaders' Council,
etc., but doesn't have the long-term expectation that the older boys
have. He also has the direct help of the Troop Guide.
BTW: in OUR summer camp (Robert E Lee Council, Richmond VA), the
Webelos summer camp is in the middle of the Summer Camp season, but
there are NO Boy Scout troops there that week. Thus, the Webelos get a
camping experience, but don't really interact with any Boy Scouts
except the camp staff and their Den Chiefs.
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In a much earlier post (yeah, I got behind on my mail!) you said " I'm
not lucky enough to have a troop with enough boys to pull a Den Chief
I'm not certain where you live (your introduction is probably in
the back mail <grin>), specifically whether there is more than one
troop nearby. I'm a firm believer in troops providing Den Chiefs
to Cub packs, even to those packs that don't send their Webelos
graduates to our troop. If the troop that your normally work with
doesn't have enough scouts to assign one as a Den Chief, I would
recommend that you see if another troop can help you out.
If this isn't an option (no other troops, or ALL of them "too
small," talk with the Scoutmaster(s) and see if you can persuade
him to assign one of his boys as your Den Chief.
Whether or not a troop receives boys from a particular pack, the
opportunity to provide Den Chiefs is one they should not pass up.
Not only does it give a young boy an opportunity to be a leader,
it puts a "real Boy Scout" in front of the Cubs/Webelos at every
meeting, and improves the likelihood that they will want to stay
in the program when they come to Scout age.
I hope you CAN find a Den Chief for your Den, Alicia. It's worth
the extra effort.
Chuck Batteau -- SM, Troop 751, Glen Allen VA USA
I used to be an Eagle ...
maybe they meant an hour a DAY! :-)
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