Re: Webelos Patrol Leaders
James D Wellborn 325 795 2010 (WELLBOJ@MAIL.FIRN.EDU)
Thu, 30 Oct 1997 18:43:57 -0500
Ginny Gillium asked about Webelos Patrol leaders and might have
ment Den Chiefs, Boy Scouts who come help at Cub Scout Den meetings.
Different Districts have different success rates with this leadership
position (part of my PhD thesis for Univ. of Scouting). Not many units
extend the "luxury" of providing a specific training session. Any
discussion beyond "ya got someone who can XYZ and show up at XYZ" is rare.
This is, however, a leadership position of potentially strong influence
that can serve as upper rank leadership requirements. Troops viewed
themselves as being able to provide Scouts for the position in a
satisfactory manner. Packs indicated that fewer than 1/2 the requestes
were fulfilled and then often with less than had been hoped for.
Training needs to take place for the Boy Scout to understand his
role. Very few Scouts have the natural or conveniently timed maturity to
interact with Wolf, Bear or Web's without a good amout of adult
pre-interaction. Because of their contact with the younger boys, this is
definitly a job for an experienced Scout, veteren 1st class or above rather
than a younger, newer Scout.
It also helps to have the adult leaders prepared to do some
training (OJT) and be patiently aware of learning curves. Some post
meeting evaluation can be critically important. Pre-meeting planning can
take place over the phone in lieu of face to face or as part of the
post meeting evaluation getting ready for the next time.
Only two leaders expressed dissatisfaction to the point of having
to remove the Den Leader (one for prolonged immaturity and one for
If the Scout has the opportunity to participate in a Univ. of
Scouting or Pow Wow session designed for Den Chiefs, great! The minimum
should be that the adult and the Scout read the Den Chief Handbook, talk
about the Den Meeting(s), agree upon tasks or roles and gradually increase
the Scout's "independence" in relation with his (or her) confidence with
the program, the role, and the kids.
I've been fortunate in having a former student be my Den Chief for
the second year and even a session of week-long Day Camp. I gave him a
Jounior Leader's Handbook and a Field Guide as a thank you gift that year.
He was another's Den Chief (a paper work mix-up) the next Day Camp year ...
someone else's good fortune, problee good for him too.
What NO Den Leader wants is an 11 year old 8 year old. But
remember, most of us are volunteers, there are seldom enough of us to do
everything as well we would like if we had our wishlist of resouses and we
do the best we can and would probably be willing to help do a bit more
if.... Soooo, remember the lemons and lemonaide formula, keep the faith and
hang in there.
I tried to be short winded but if you want to discuss it more, feel
free to e-me.
Jim Wellborn Gulf Ridge Council
firstname.lastname@example.org Crystal River, FL
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