Re: Webelos Patrol Leaders
Mike Walton ("settummanque,)
Fri, 31 Oct 1997 02:44:54 -0600
Ginny asked us all:
>I would appreciate some input regarding the use of patrol leaders for a
First, why aren't you using "Denner" and "Assistant Denner" instead of
"Patrol Leader" and "Assistant Patrol Leader"?
>I realize the boys should choose their leaders but what if their adult
>leaders do not agree with their decision.
If you *really want* the Patrol system to work, Ginny, you have to "let them
fly and fall" on their own. By going in and "overriding" their right to
elect whomever they choose to, you've told them "don't bother electing
anyone, because we'll just pick whomever we want and we're just being polite
in asking you". By having a cynical eye toward the boys that were elected,
you've confirmed that "this is a just a drill" and believe me, it crosses
over to other aspects of Patrol operation ("Hey, where do you want to go to
next time?", "Why don't you guys ever suggest stuff for our Patrol to do?")
>I feel it should be boys that demonstrate the scouting spirit and that their
>parents share in this interest.
When I was first elected Patrol Leader, my parents showed little concern
about the new role I would play. I did a good job, but then I wasn't in a
WEBELOS Den either. You'll find that, if you want this to work within a
WEBELOS Den, Ginny, that the Patrol Leader needs to lead....without Momma
and/or Pappa anywhere around.
>Also that they demonstrate responsibility along with maturity >(appropriate
for his age level) and that they have good moral character.
Remember the role of the Denner, Ginny. The Den Leader and Assistant are
the leaders of the Den; the Denner and Assistant, along with that Den Chief,
are supporting players.
>After all patrol leaders help relieve some of the adult webelos leaders
>responsibilities during the meetings. If the adult leader cannot depend
>on these boys what good is the purpose of this position?
It serves as a "comfort factor" when the members of the Patrol become a Boy
Scout patrol within the next year, Ginny....they learn how important a
Patrol Leader is, what it means to be the Patrol Leader or Assistant and the
fine art of leadership. Unfortunately, there's not a "WEBELOS Patrol
Leader" Training course that you can send your new Patrol Leader to;
although I personally don't see a problem if your District conducts a
special version of the Troop Operations Workshop for WEBELOS Patrol Leaders.
Remember, the way I understand the Denner and Assistant Denner position, it
is supposed to be "shared" among all of the boys in your Den. This gives
everyone in the Patrol the opportunity to have experiences as the "leader"
and as the "follower".
Once again, Ginny: if you *really want* the Patrol system to work, Ginny,
you have to "let them fly and fall" on their own. This means accepting whom
THEY elect as PL and whom HE appoints as APL. This also means if you're
going to give the PL major responsibities, he's going to have to be trained
and coached by the adults in the Den into those responsibilities.
That Den Chief can be a great assist here too...
Hope this helped!
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