Re: Halloween Eagle, some points
Hushing-Kline Family (EC92@AOL.COM)
Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:13:38 -0400
>>1>What can Council Supply me officially?
For one, it should not be allowed to share the letter from the people
involved in the incident. The Eagle Board should get the candidate, the Life
to Eagle workbook, the application, and the references the Scout stated on
the application. In a larger council you probably wouldn't even know someone
was protesting it until after the review.
>>2>Does Council Leadership support the boy and Troop?
The professionals don't run this program, the volunteers do, so we get to
make the decision and they get to support *us*.
>>3>Pre-Meeting Warm Fuzzys'
The only one needed to talk to is the one who can slow everything down until
it cools off *if necessary*, the SM. Who can talk to the boy as a sort of
last minute SM conference/buddy session if he feels there will be trouble.
I agree, but the SM is the one who should know and decide if he wants to
share with the candidate.
>Presentation by Him
I would want to have the boy say something about how the >>experience
improved him and his future actions and decisions. He >>should discuss how
and why he got into the situation, the damage >>it did to people, etc.
Basically some of Mike W's questions >>formulated in his words, his recovery
action, and his future.
This part I agree to. However, reparations and punishment for what he did are
taken care of by another part of the system - the judicial system. We can
judge the boy on whether or not he has learned the importance of the Scout
Oath, Law, and Slogan and whether or not he has learned that he has to give
back to Scouting to try to prevent someone else from making the same mistake.
And as to expecting reparations from him in the form of service now, you're
talking about adding requirements to the award and that won't fly. If
appealed the boards decision will be overturned.
As to expecting the Boy to reveal everything about what he did and how he
repaid the people, you cannot ask or expect that. In fact, its only because
of the size of the council and town that you have press coverage telling you
that you had a problem.
>Letters of Recommendation and Character
Only the recommendations listed on the applicants form should be admitted
into that review room for the Board.
It would be great if one was from the arresting officer or the court, but
it'd also be a dream that it would work out that way.
>Letter to the Editor
Once again, adding to the requirements of the award. Not acceptable. I would
encourage the SE to talk to the papers and tell why the award was presented
and offer, IF THE SCOUT IS WILLING, to be interviewed with family and/or
friends around him as to how he made a mistake but changed. Any editor or
writer should jump at something like that, it's the kind of stuff AP picks up
on a slow news day.
Any questions have to include the fact that we all have made mistakes as
youth and they have not held us back in our lives. We have Eagle Scouts now
who have made mistakes in their past, but turned their lives around.
I gave Doug a good example from a unit I served in one council in private, I
won't take it public, sorry.
If Eagle is denied *I* would be the one writing up precisely why and printing
it out so that it is explained to the Scout and handed to him to take to mom
and dad because you know that being turned down will raise as big a fuss
internally (in a small council a very big deal) as awarding it will publicly.
Telling him why not is what you are required to do.
You also must realize that if he has completed the requirements for Eagle, he
will most likely receive the award, since that is what we are evaluating and
judging, the requirements. It is only the Oath and Law portions of the SM
conference that allow this subject to brought up at all.
Z>Eagle Award and a Positive Community Experience.
Or Eagle award and a poor community experience. Or refusing him an Eagle
after doing all the work unless he does more and he throws up his hands and
says "enough". Or a long appeal process where the council looks bad because
he is awarded the Eagle in the end anyways *because he completed the
requirements*. Lots more chances for bad experience than good here unless
your Scout Executive is especially good at playing the local press.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City