Halloween Eagle Candidate (Was: Eagle BoR)
David F. Delman (Delman01@COMPUSERVE.COM)
Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:25:12 -0400
<<Sun, 19 Oct 1997 06:54:31 Doug Gentry <dwgentry@POLARCONSULT.COM>>
<<Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:09:26 Jason Cruse <jcruse@NEMONET.COM>>
<<Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:40:59 Ian N Ford <ianford@DIRCON.CO.UK>>
<<Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:05:43 Timothy O'Leary <tjo@IMSNET.NET>>
<<Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:47:46 Stu Estrade <stuestrade@SPRINTMAIL.COM>>
<<Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:56:29 Mike Walton)" <blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET>>
<<Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:34:46 JOHN A. GASINK" <jgasink@CSRLINK.NET>>
<<Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:41:42 J. Hugh Sullivan" <sull@MINDSPRING.COM>>
<<Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:52:58 Jim Sleezer <JHS8@VM1.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU>>
I am not sure which Eagle BoR style you are using. The rest of this
is in the first person as if I am the visiting Council person coming
to the Troops's Eagle BoR at their site. I am the outsider and they
The reality I am dealing with is several fold. I know that many boys
who haven't necessarily earned Eagle are bestowed Eagle due to their
Unit Practices and how scouting is organized. If he had done something
small nobody would know including me or the troop. A little bigger =
and maybe the troop would scrutinize and I would still not know. In =
this particular case the lad has done or been involved in something =
significantly wrong to and known by a wide audience and the scrutiny =
increases immeasurably on him, my Council, and scouting for all those
future boys in our community. This highest scrutiny is as it should be.
My summation before giving my action plan is I would go either way
Acceptance or Non-Acceptance. I would set up a positive outcome or a =
positive Non-Acceptance BoR with a ComeBack plan before participating =
in the meeting. My goal is Eagle for the Boy, the Troop, the Council,
and the Community. If Council did not support me in this goal I would
decline the invitation.
My Action Plan
1>What can Council Supply me officially?
It should have been shared with the troop and boy. If shared did
the troop and boy respond. If it is private from Council's =
perspective I would first attempt to turn this around, ignoring
the letter or letters otherwise.
2>Does Council Leadership support the boy and Troop?
Does the CE, or CP, have strong reservations about the boy or troop
leadership? Will they go on some sort of a verbal record I could use,
and relay where appropriate. I would consider their input and alter =
my BoR discussions appropriately. If they will only give me private
hearsay I would rather not listen.
3>Pre-Meeting Warm Fuzzys'
I would think about some type of private discussion with the =
Chartering Organization Head or Troop Chief Adults either by me
or preferably through the CP or UC to be sure they have assisted
the situation to the benefit of scouting, the people affected, the
boy and his future. I would use this to get a good feeling about =
the Chartering Organization and the Troop's understanding of the =
Eagle Award as a Troop, Council, and a Community Wide Honor rather
than just their RIGHT as a paying scout troop.
Every troop is different some are "Stamp it Sams" and a few are =
like some of those the scout-lrs describe that make tremendous
rebounds and turnovers under pressure.
Prior to the BoR, I would let them know a few of the questions =
I will be interested in hearing about from them and the boy.
>Presentation by Him
I would want to have the boy say something about how the experience
improved him and his future actions and decisions. He should
discuss how and why he got into the situation, the damage it did
to people, etc. Basically some of Mike W's questions formulated
in his words, his recovery action, and his future.
As for reparations, yes I would expect to hear about assistance
back to the individuals involved. Not a nickel, dime, or date
account but a wider perspective account on how actions since Oct96
has helped to improve things that were damaged for real people.
I would want to hear about service projects where the troop or boy
did something positive for the real people involved. He is a boy =
in their Troop, and their Troop lives in the Community. This Oct97
what did he and they do good for the Community. If this idea is too
late how about Thanksgiving 97.
>Letters of Recommendation and Character
I would want to see one or two from the real people who were hurt.
Many of them are good, caring people who would be glad to write.
>Letter to the Editor
Considering a positive outcome and that thing called the "Press".
I would probably want to see something like a letter to the editor
composed by the boy that attempts to bring some respect back to the
boy, the eagle award that he earned, and to his/our community.
I would let them know a few of the tough ones that I would want
answered. If one of the other sitters on the BoR has one that is
close to mine or would like to ask my questions I would encourage
them to displace mine.
I would probably use some of Mike W's line of questions playing
them by ear.
If the BoR ended in Non-Acceptance I would ask for the Troop and =
the Boy to agree on a date for an Acceptance BoR. I would ask them
to write up what needs to be done, work with me on any corrections
and then mail the final to me, the boy, and our Council.
Z>Eagle Award and a Positive Community Experience.
YiS, IMHO, and may we each attempt to live the SO,SL,SS,SM
Mr Dave (Hawleyton, NY (Susquenango Council=
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