Re: Parent Coach Counselor
Rod Smith (owlelope@BRIGHT.NET)
Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:43:24 -0400
Bob will probably lose the whole troop when some of your mothers find out
that when you go to Philmont you only need to take one change of underwear
for 11 days in the woods. My standard story on underwear is that after two
days you wear your underwear backwards, then in another two days you turn
them inside out, and then in another two days you wear them backwards and
then two days later Johnny changes with Joey, and the last two days you
don't wear any underwear and that gets you through Philmont without really
needing a change of underwear.
At 02:46 PM 10/14/1997 -0600, you wrote:
>Our troop in the last few weeks initiated two new adult positions I
>share with Scouts-L. A previous note discussed our Eagle Project Coach
>Counselor, this discusses our Parent Coach Counselor.
>The other position comes from a confluence of two things.
>The first thing was that in order to offer a better program and get a
>all this camping I got myself appointed expedition planner at the start of
>year. We got reservations for two
>expeditions, Boundary Waters in '98, and Philmont in '99. Much to our
>we had a lot of
>parents sign up as adult leaders for Boundary Waters, nearly half the people
>going. This turned
>into a interesting opportunity. As expedition planner I set the standard that
>adults should get
>Scoutmaster Fundamentals training if they really wanted to go reasoning if we
>lost a few adults our leader to scout ratios would be better anyway, and
>didn't we'd at least have a lot of trained adults.
>Two weeks ago one of the four districts in our council (not our troop's
>district) offered a full
>weekend SMF course. The result was that of about ten people who showed up for
>were from our troop. And out of that one of the parents came back to the
>Committee meeting a few days ago saying, "If parents think the purpose is
>a boy to become an Eagle, they've missed the point. It's to get the boy to
>become the Scoutmaster." (Not legally of course but in the sense of being the
>leader of the group.) Right on target.
>The second confluent item is to consider the dismal outcome we had this year
>with the six Webelos who joined our troop in March. Five have dropped out.
>Reasons vary but we feel it is primarily because of unrealistic expectations.
>For instance, we heard one mother pulled her son (which caused his best
>to leave too) because we hadn't even reminded him to change his socks on the
>camp out. And also a couple of these parents were aghast that the boys
>seemed to be trying to run the troop meeting while the leaders just sat
>let it happen. Can you imagine that?
>So we created a new leader position, that of Parent Coach Counselor. This
>is to work with new parents. They are going to try to manage the
>parents "No the adults aren't going to cook or remind kids to change
>boys are expected to try to run the meetings which makes them a little
>around the edges than a pack meeting." And also to tell them the little stuff
>like a board of review is this and a Tote and Chip is that. The same
>realized to goal is to make leaders (SM's in his words) decided to try this
>Again too early to tell what will happen with this but I'm optimistic it
>incremental step for improvement.
>As always, your comments, experiences, and critisms are welcome.
>YiS, Bob Losee, SM of T25, Lincoln NE
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