Re: NCAC buys Disney Property
Jim Soltysiak (jasolty@JGVANDYKE.COM)
Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:07:38 -0400
First-off, I in no way speak for the National Capital Area Council and I am
only relaying information I heard when I attended the OA orientation at the
close-in camp during the weekend. Ron Carroll also presented the
information as his impression of what is going to happen, but all decisions
are pending volunteer committee approvals.
The camp is near Haymarket, VA. The council purchased several properties
in the area. The largest property was the farm. They also own a 100 yd
wide strip of land bordering the road from Rt. 15 to the road next to the
property for signs and "to prevent building along the strip." They also
own a large strip of wooded area with a stream in the middle and a few real
small properties in the area. It was a package deal, Disney did not want
to sell of the properties piece-meal. Most of the small areas will be sold
off to make money for improvements at the main area. The wooded strip will
be used for awhile for camping but will eventually be sold off. It is
zoned commercial and the county has let it known that they will allow
camping there for awhile but they will not change the zoning.
The farm itself is divided into 4 areas. The first area being the farm
house area. There are several barns, some old and decaying, some newer. A
large fancy farm house, ideal for small meeting and sleeping staff for
events but not for large events. The second area is an area to the west of
the farmhouse. It is a flood plain that was dry when we got there but
according to Mr. Carroll can get very marshy after rains. The third area
farther to the west is a large forest area, no campsites yet, but ideal
location for campsites. The fourth area to the east of the farmhouse is a
large open hilly field on which they are planning on planting trees
They anticipate that training will move to the site "this time next year."
But any major building on the site will not take place for approx. 5 years
when they anticipate getting city sewer and water at the site.
I hope this answers some of your questions.
Chapter Adviser, Patuxent Chapter
Vigil Class of '96 - Tschitanessoagan - One who has Authority
Amangamek Wipit Lodge #470 - National Capital Area Council
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:53:43 -0400
From: Bill Haynes <BDKQ5H1@LIVEWIRE.BELL-ATL.COM>
Subject: NCAC buys Disney Property
I just read the Council newspaper discussing the purchase of some 500
by the National Capitol Area Council from the Disney Company. Disney
wanted to build a theme park outside Washington, DC called 'Disney's
America', but local opposition caused the plan to fail. The land will
used for a 'close-in' camp to the DC area. The council camp, Goshen,
over 3 hours away.
The picture painted by the council was rosy, but mentioned they paid
as much as they had hoped to pay for camp property, but it was twice
size. I don't think any amount was given in the council paper. What
know about this property which was a farm? Apparently there is no
forest land as an article mentioned the need to plant 1000's of trees.
There is apparently no waterfront, but there is wetland nearby. The
Washington Post also quoted a resident as saying they were happy to
the Scouts as neighbors, but wouldn't want their son camping so close
I would like to hear more about the area. I am excited about the
opportunity to have a local Scout camp. Does anyone have any
Bill Haynes-DL (Den 3, Pack 224, Hyattsville, MD)
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