Re: Removing a leader
H. Alan Schup (aschup@WHY.NET)
Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:34:08 -0500
Scouters, I will keep the sarcasm out of this posting...
National BSA guidelines from the Guide to Safe Scouting states:
Life-treatening Communicable Diseases
"Local Scouting units and their sponsoring institutions traditionally
determine their own membership, absent from any legal constraints.
Accordingly, units and sponsoring institutions should determine the
feasiblity or desireability of allowing youth or adult members who have or
are suspected of having a life-threatening communicable disease to
participate in Scouting activities." ... more about youth members follow...
ESSENTIALLY, a single specific troop, being ruled a private organization by
the US Supreme Court, *CAN* discriminate against HIV + people because the
discrimination by one troop does not constitute that another troop will not
allow the HIV + person. This is the law as determined by the US Supreme
Also, the PLC, committee, and sponsor must be involved in this decision.
The PLC has a voice input, the committee forms a policy, and the sponsor
(being the INDIVIDUAL under legal responsibility of the troop's policy)
vetoes or accepts the policy.
Other items to consider:
Scout Oath and Law: ...help other people at all times... A Scout is
helpful. A Scout is friendly. A Scout is kind. A Scout is brave...
Maturity Level: Can I trust the person with the responsibility to not
purposely transmit the disease to other people? Will the person stop a
first aid volunteer if they are not taking the proper precautions in
Outward message: If the troop bans HIV infected people from joining, what
message is this telling the youth of the troop and outsiders? One is
supposed to render first aid to anyone in need, taking precautions against
blood borne pathogens at all times. Yet, should the troop ask the first
aid volunteer to knowingly risk their life to accidental exposure to blood
and other body fluids?
We should be teaching protection from bloodborne pathogens anyway. If
we apply first aid to each other as if we are treating total strangers
(ie... hand over the first aid kit to the person to treat themselves if at
all possible, wear dry barrier mask with eye shield and wear gloves
otherwise), then there is mimimal risk (though not zero risk) that diseases
will be transmitted to the amateur first aid volunteer.
Keeping HIV secret to prevent hazing and shunning in society. If this had
been a child, then there is a right to keep HIV + a secret, but the right
stops when the hospital needs to take blood or clean up body fluids. The
hospital requires that HIV status be known at time of admittance.
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