Von rosenberg, Eugene (GDVO@CHEVRON.COM)
Thu, 25 Sep 1997 06:57:20 -0700
Gene von Rosenberg, Troop 48 Scoutmaster
Boy Scout Roundtable Chairman, International Representative, etc.
New Orleans, Louisiana
Soaring Eagle Patrol of Gilwell Troop 1 (the sore eagles)
I have read requests about ventures and older scouts, so I would like to
relate our history of venture scouts. Maybe others can learn from it.
Troop 48 started venture scouts 3 years ago to solve 2 problems: older
scouts were dropping out of scouting because of other activities and
some of the older scouts were not getting along with the younger scouts
and were not providing leadership. We could have asked the problem
scouts to leave and let the other scouts leave, because we did have
enough older scouts to provide leadership, but instead we decided to try
The ventures started meeting twice a month at a different night than the
troop meeting. We invited all scouts 14 and above to attend, including
junior leaders. They were told about the venture program and that they
could also participate in the troop programs as well, although venture
scouts could remain active by just participating in the venture program.
The junior leaders could be ventures, but their primary duty was with
the troop. The hope was that the older scouts who had problems wuth
younger scouts would only be ventures and would not have problems with
their peers. We also hoped to get back other older scouts who dropped
out. One of our adult leaders went to Philmont and took training on
working with older scouts.
The bottom line is that it worked as we planned. The ventures have had 2
super trips including caving, canoeing, white water rafting that they
planned and organized themselves. Five of them completed their Eagle
rank while in ventures and 2 scouts who had dropped out came back to be
in the ventures. The older scouts who had problems with picking on
younger scouts did fine with their peers in a smaller group. Ten scouts
participated in the high adventure trip last summer and there are about
15 ventures in the program. The troop has over 50 active scouts,
We now meet twice a month on troop meeting nights. This was decided to
make it easier for scouts to keep contact with the troop. The meetings
are in separate areas, but ventures participate in the opening and
I think the key is to define your goals before starting. Getting a
committed venture ASM who is trained is vital. I have not had to
participate in the program as SM, although I helped start the program.
The venture ASM has handled all transportation issues and planning.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City