Re: Bad Breath?
Gary Piper (GRPiper@CLASSIC.MSN.COM)
Sat, 20 Sep 1997 01:21:29 UT
I had this problem in my troop. When last years WEBLOS crossed over one dad
wonted to sign up as a ASM. He was a backcountry outfitter from Montana who
now worked for a paper company. I relay wonted his expertise. A committee
member pointed out to me that he had a very strong smell of alcohol on his
breath. I told him that BSA had a no drinking policy around boys. He told me
that he had just had a drink at diner. I told him that it was not my job or
intent to judge his lifestyle. I told him that it did not matter was he was
or was not under the influence of alcohol. The important thing was the
appearance that he may be by the smell on his breath. I ask him to please not
come to a meeting with the smell of alcohol on his breath. He left and came
back after the meeting and tried to explain that he just had one drink with
dinner. I informed him that I had no problem with that and often had a drink
with dinner myself. I also told him that it is totally unacceptable to be at
any scouting function with even the slights smell of alcohol on his breath.
He did not like this and never came back. His son has stopped coming. I
probable drove a boy away from scouting that really needed scouting.
I know I did the right thing for the good of the boys in the troop and
scouting in general. The appearance of doing wrong can be just as bad of an
influence on boys as actually doing wrong. The boys can not tell the
difference many time. We adult leaders must always try and live up to the
Scouting principals and also give the appearance of living up to the
The bottom line is, if any adult has any signs of being under the influence of
alcohol, ask them to leave and do not come back until it is gone. Alcohol
smell on the breath is the easiest to tell and not acceptable.
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From: Scouts-L Youth Group List On Behalf Of Mark Arend
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 1997 10:42 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Re: Bad Breath?
At 01:36 AM 9/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Say you have a Scout in your troop whose father wants to be an ASM, and ...
Both parents come to the meeting with a strong alcohol smell on their
breath. They do not exhibit any outward signs of inebreation.
Talk to them and give them the benefit of the doubt, at least at first.
Perhaps they ususally have a drink or two with dinner and don't realize that
the smell lingers. Perhaps all that's needed is to hold off the evening
cocktail until after the meeting or a tooth-brushing after meals..
But you don't want them coming to meetings with alcohol on they're breaths.
Mark W. Arend
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