Re: Bad Breath?
Dave Wiebe (dawiebe@SPARTAN.AC.BROCKU.CA)
Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:40:09 -0400
On Thu, 18 Sep 1997, Ben Gohlke wrote:
> Say you have a Scout in your troop whose father wants to be an ASM, and
> mother who wants to help out also. GREAT, BY ALL MEANS, you say. Ok, now the
> dilema. Both parents come to the meeting with a strong alcohol smell on their
> breath. They do not exhibit any outward signs of inebreation. So, would you:
> 1. Welcome them with open arms and let them be active in the troop
2. Find a tactful way of "saying no" (help with this one, please)
> 3. Be blunt and say NO
> 4. Let them be active but discuss the "issue" with them
> 5. Other
> Ben Gohlke, ASM
> BSA Troop 3, Chico, CA
This may be long because it hits close to home so please bear with me. A
few years ago I was asked to help at another Scout Troop. All of the
leaders were drinking buddies and all came to meetings with "the smell".
At camp after the boys went to bed the bottle came out and they stayed up
all night drinking and took their hangovers out on the boys. They would
yell at the boys and I would yell back at them in defence of the boys.
At one particular camp a parent showed up to help out for the weekend, he
was wearing a wine skin which I later found out was full of red wine which
he drank all day. That evening he drank the other leaders bottle of rye
that they had out on the table while they were checking on the boys. When
he asked after the campout if he could be a leader and they said no
because you drink.
For my own personal reasons I had to get away from this situation, being
offered a drink all the time is trying on your soberity. The other
leaders liked me and respected my knowledge, they just kept offering me
So know I state quite clearly from the begining that I don't allow
drinking by leaders at camp and even if Scouts Canada changes their policy
(which I have heard rumours that it is alright as long as you have a
designated leader who is sober) I will not change mine. I also request
that they not have a drink before the meeting because the boys can smell
it, they are not stupid, and they may loose respect for you as a leader.
Dave, 40th St Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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