Sage Backstrom (SageofAges@AOL.COM)
Sun, 14 Sep 1997 20:21:01 -0400
In a message dated 9/15/1997 6:08:49 AM, phbrown@CAPACCESS.ORG (Paul H.
>> and the case of the son of a single mom? or the dad who is not of physical
>> stature to hold his son aloft? How do they fit into the "not hazing"
>How does having a substitute for a father make the activity "hazing?"
I realize that this point arguing this with you is not a productive endeavor.
Many times individuals reluctantly cling to things that are wrong "because
it is tradition, it is the way we always do things etc."
>> Please what will you say when a child is dropped? What will this teach in
>> years to come? Is the slamming of wings into military members barechest
>> same as learning to ride a bike or roller blade? Is being encouraged to
>> consume alcohol in excessive quantities as a "provisional" member of a
>> letter organization an acceptable risk?
>And who has advocated these activities as part of the scout experience?
I do not advocate these activities as a part of the scout experience. My
point was...what we teach NOW to these young men will be carried FURTHER into
their lives as they encounter other groups and practices. Many times each
new episode in life becomes "more grandious" than what was experienced
before. TEACHING HAZING IS WRONG needs to start when the FIRST enter
Scouting. The lesson taught now carries on in life...isn't that why we
advocate HONOR, TRUTH, LOYALTY and virtuous beliefs.
>> The activities that are embarrassing, demeaning, unnecessarily risky that
>> treated now as acceptable will only be built upon by these young people in
>> later years.
>And being held upside down is neither embarassing, demeaning, nor
I disagree with you. It is embarrassing, demeaning and EXTREMELY RISKY.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City