Terry Dunnigan (thedew@CONCENTRIC.NET)
Sun, 24 Aug 1997 23:14:03 -0700
(note -- I am cross-posting this to Scouts-L and my website, because I
think the information is valuable to all)
Hi Mike. My name's Terry and <728-03>, 1998 will be my third trip to
Philmont ( 1992 & 1994 as youth ). This time, I'm working with the SM so
I'm pretty intimate with the planning details of our trip. Visit
http://www.concentric.net/~Thedew/Philmont/ for more info.
Our schedule is still being planned out, but here are our key points ( the
reqs to attend are available at our website ):
All of our scouts going on Philmont have already done at least one 50 Miler
trip and several smaller, 2-3 night trips. To prepare for Philmont, we
have three "pretreks." A pretrek is a 20-35 mile trip, 4-5 nights ( longer
than a normal weekend outing ). This is to prepare a Scout for a long trip
like Philmont. A scout must attend two out of three pretreks:
- December/January (winter break)
- March/April (Easter break)
- June (end of school).
I'm based in Mill Valley, CA, just 15 minutes north of San Francisco, and
we try to go away for these trips -- the Dec/Jan trip have been down in Big
Sur/Ventana Wilderness ( near Carmel ). The April trips have been in the
Yolo Bole Wilderness and the Pt. Reyes National Seashore. The June trips
have been in the Marin Headlands and at our council camp.
We've found that the longer a trip is, the better -- a Scout only learns to
appreciate how much he overpacked on the 4th or so day...the shorter trips
don't provide the Scout with this.
>Our Philmont crew will have its first meeting next month. I have
>prepared the tenative training schedule as follows:
>Oct- COPE Course- confiderence training course
Good idea. Question: how have you selected your crew? Are they a bunch of
high adventure scouts? Have you gone on 50 Milers or other long-term
backpacking trips? Is this your first Philmont trip?
>Nov- two night backpacking hike
I'd suggest electing the crew leader & asst before this hike. The more
time a crew can solidify, the better.
>Dec- First aid certicication
> election of crew chief and asst
First Aid certification is a good idea. ( I assume you meant for the crew
members ). Is it CPR training?
>Jan- two night backpacking hike
>Mar- three night backpacking hike
>May-two night backpacking hike
You don't really have any long trips scheduled. In addition to what I
wrote above, longer trips help the crew with bonding and getting to know
each other and work better.
>June-Crew and families cookout
Sounds like fun
>June 26 - Depart for Philmont
>I would appreciate input from Philmont alumni on the above schedule.
>Suggestions on type of training for our meetings is also appreciated.
>Did you have Crew chief training? What did you do?
No, I don't think we've had crew chief training, per se. In 1992 and 1994
the crew leader has been the current, out-going, or incoming SPL and his
asst. Go figure!?! I think your crew chief's performance will be a
reflection of his leadership capabilities and the training program of your
troop. If you notice that the crew leader is deficient in some areas, take
a look at your troop's training programs and see if you can improve there.
>1. Ideas for team building among the crew.
Again, have the crew vote on the crew leader EARLY and try your best to
uphold the 'youth-run' standard of BSA.
>2.How strict should we make our attendance policy on our hikes and
Depends on how you've run your troop. Is attendance a problem with your
troop in general? For your high adventure program, do you have an
attendance problem? If you normally do have an attendance problem, and you
have more people wanting to go than you have space ( as we do ), then there
is your solution--if they miss more than X meetings, they are bumped to the
end of the waiting list and the first person on the list is now going.
Looking forward to Philmont 98 correspondence,
"This is the President of the United States...I want the people to know
that they still have two out of three branches of the government working
for them, and that ain't bad." -- Jack Nicholson, Mars Attacks!
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City