Re: Boards of Review
John Tudor (tudorj@WP.CC.NC.US)
Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:52:05 -0400
At 12:42 PM 8/17/97 -0500, Jim Peterson babbled:
>I also hate to have this dredged up again, especially since I have to
>"At the end of his review the Scout leaves the room while the board
>discusses his qualifications. He is then called back and told that he has
>qualified, or what additional action he must take to qualify."
>This clearly indicates that the Board may deny the advancement and specify
>what requirements must be met in order for the advancement to be awarded.
May I relate what happened to my son this summer when going for his First
First let me admit that my son is not a ball of fire, sometimes he has been
known to lag behind on a hike, and have to be prodded to keep up, partly
because he is overweight, and he has been known to play at times when he
should be working. His scoutmaster, his mother and I have all been working
on this problem, and have been making progress on it.
On the Monday following our spring Camporee, my son was scheduled to have
his scoutmaster conference and BOR for 1st class. On Sunday morning, all
of the boys were goofing off, and not getting things ready to go home.
When the SM could not get the boys to do what needed to be done easily, he
put a stop to everything, and called them together for a "SM Minute". At
the end of his lecture, my son was told not to come for his conference that
He scheduled a conference at the next meeting, and was turned down on scout
spirit. I worked with him for several weeks to make sure he was pulling
his share, and had him get turned down again. The week of Cub Day camp, he
told me that he wanted to get his 1st class before day camp, so that he
could use his work there as service hours for his next rank. I talked to
the SM, and explained the situation to him, Including the fact that my son
needed 1st class to be able to go to the Jamboree. The deadline for 1st
class was only 3 weeks away.
The SM gave him the conference, and then signed off on it that night. He
was then sent to the BOR, which was made up of 3 men, 2 of them were ASM's.
I thought the committee members were supposed to do this job? Anyway,
they turned him down on scout spirit, knowing that he had been turned down
by the SM 3 times already on this issue.
The BOR said that they had gotten several reports from the leaders of the
day camp last year that my son did not do anything last year, just goofed
off the whole week. That was not the story I had gotten from the leaders
of the day camp, they said that my son was a great help,and they liked him
so much they had him go to den chief training over the winter.
The BOR then said they were going to have another scout in our troop keep
an eye on him during the week, and report back to them the next Monday,
They told him to come back again then.
Well, that scout was only at day camp one other day that week. I had the
camp director write a letter to the BOR about my son, and she was outraged
about the statement they made about the previous year. She wanted to
appear before them in person!
The next Monday, my son appeared before an entirely different BOR, complete
with letter. They said nothing about the "spy", did not even talk to him,
accepted the letter, and signed off on the advancement.
I think this whole matter was very poorly handled, but I am at a loss about
what to do, if anything. I really don't want to rock the boat too much,
since I am an ASM myself with the same troop, and really don't want to
change to another troop, but I could use some guidance in this matter. I
don't want the same thing to pop up at his next BOR.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
ASM Troop 184
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