Re: Merit Badge Irregularity
Gary Piper (GRPiper@MSN.COM)
Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:45:54 UT
I have two points on this.
1st - If the previous Scoutmaster improperly signed off on a MB card and the
Boy was told he earned the MB, I think you have to honor the awarding of it.
I have found similar problems at times in my troop. I explain to the boy that
I do not think it was proper that the MB councilor did not make sure that he
had truly earned the MB, but I think it would be worse to take it back now. I
would ask him to complete the requirements that you and he know he did not
complete, just so he would feel like he truly earned the MB. If he chooses
not to that is his loss.
2nd - MAKE SURE IT DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. Do not allow a boy to start a MB
until the blue card is filled out and MB consoler is identified. If I do not
personally know the consoler, I check him out to insure he understand the
rules and his responsibility. This falls apart at summer camp where I have to
trust that the staff is doing their job. My experience is that many times
they do not. We went to a different summer camp about two years ago and the
majority of my boys came to me complaining that they had to work to earn there
MBs at this camp. I asked what they were talking about and they said that at
the camp they went to the year before all they had to do was show, don't cause
trouble and they earned the badge. They did not have to do anything, just be
there. I had my boys explain this to several District and Council
Commissioners. It was not a problem at our summer camp the next year. They
checked it out, validate it as a fact, and fixed it.
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From: Scouts-L Youth Group List On Behalf Of Murphy Peter
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 7:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Merit Badge Irregularity
After experiencing some problems with the application of our
first Eagle in 6 years, the Advancement Chairman and I started
to clean up our Troop's records. I have TroopMaster now and
we are trying to reconcile the records she inherited from the
previous Scoutmaster with the Council's records and from that
I'm recreating the detailed advancement record for each Scout.
In the process, the Advancement Chairman found 3 merit badge
cards for Emergency Preparedness dated 1 October 1995 and
signed by the previous Scoutmaster. These are not just the
blue cards but the cards awarded at the Court of Honor. They
have never been presented to the Scouts.
Requirement #1 of Emergency Preparedness is "Earn First Aid
merit badge". Two of the three Scouts in question do not have
First Aid and the third did not earn First Aid until a year after the
date on the EP merit badge card. When I asked, the first 2 Scouts
said that they have not yet earned EP because they haven't
completed First Aid. So I intend to just ignore these cards. The
3rd Scout says he did earn EP but then I pointed out the
discrepancy. We left that with me promising to discuss it with
the troop committee and previous Scoutmaster to decide how
to handle it. This may impact his progression dates to Star and
What would you do for these 3 Scouts?
Peter M. Murphy :: firstname.lastname@example.org
SM T125, TC P125, Our Lady of Mt. Carmel Catholic Church
Del-Mi District, Crossroads of America Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City