Re: Parents withholding information, et. al.
Gary Piper (GRPiper@MSN.COM)
Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:40:59 UT
I have had a similare problem in my troop. Her is how I handled it:
I and my troop suffered for two years well we did not understand why one of my
patrols was so bad. I had many ADD scouts (5 out of 6) in one patrol and did
not know it. I went throught many issues, parent conferences and set many
rules for the patrol. I finaly gave up, call a SM parent conference and told
the parents that I could no longer assume responsibility for there boys in the
troop and was throwing them out because of my inability to control them. It
was then that the parents told me about there sons ADD and the fact that they
were taking them off medicine for scout outing.
I researched the boys medical reports and found no indication of ADD or any
medicine. I approached the parents and ask why. They told me that they
worried that I would throw them out if I know.
We then worked with the parents and boys. All but one made Eagle. The one
that did not shoot himself the day after he lost the SPL elections (He died).
The bottom line is - You can not stop parents from withholding information.
You can take action based on the boys behavior, as soon as it becomes a
problem. Do not wait, do not hesitate to get the parents involved, and do not
accept ADD or anything else as an excuse for miss behavior. Treat the
misbehavior right when it happens, accept disabilities and make your decisions
on what to do based on them, but do not let them become an excuse for
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From: Scouts-L Youth Group List on behalf of Ron Raab-Long
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 6:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Parents withholding information, et. al.
At our District Committee meeting last night a subject came up that seems to
be more prevelant than I at first thought. It seems that, at our council
camps this year there was/is a rash of boys being taken off their ADD
(ridilan(sp?)) medicine just prior to leaving home. This led to several
behavior problems, including at least one leader being punched in the mouth,
and another being pushed.
I have been asked to address next week's roundtables about this. Scouter's
want to know at least two things:
1. How to deal with parents (not registered leaders) that don't provide the
information a troop/pack needs to serve their sons properly. This could be
the fact that their child is on ADD medicine, was taken off of medicine, has
a learning disability, is illiterate, has serious allergies, or whatever.
2. What to do with Scouts and Cubs whose medical, mental, or developmental
problems manifest themselves as behavioral problems. Specifically, what do
you say to the Scout who punches your AS because his parents told him to
leave his medicine at home.
Any help you can offer will be appreciated.
On another note, the current discussion about the Boy Scout article in the
July 1985 issue of Smithsonian Magazine got me to look for them on the 'net.
I'm sorry to say that their on-line search engine only goes back to 1989,
and any issues prior to 1990 are out of print and cannot be ordered.
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