Re: MB's and blue cards
Bruce E. Cobern (bec@PIPELINE.COM)
Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:46:42 -0400
> From: Bob Rosebrough, GBL, B-200 <rosebro@GGPL.ARSUSDA.GOV>
> Date: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 10:20 AM
The completion certificate easily equates
> to a completed blue card for those troops accepting such or will allow
> the troop ultimate control over who signs off a completed card. Their
> system appears to be an attempt at satisfying those of us who are
> concerned mainly about the kids' learning something and those who are
> concerned about blue cards
I still a problem with this.
You talk about allowing troops ultimate control over who signs off a
completed card. I agree that the troop should have that control. But
only BEFORE the Scout starts working on the merit badge. Our organization
(the BSA) states VERY CLEARLY that the decision about whether the Scout
has earned the merit badge rests with the COUNSELOR, not the unit, and
that once a merit badge has been earned it cannot be taken away.
If these certificates are the equivalent of a blue card and, in fact, the
troop could receive a blue card for the asking, then clearly the person
signing the certificate has been approved as an authorized counselor by
Blue Ridge Council and, as long as the troop authorized the Scout to take
the badge in the first place, his signature is ALL that is required for
the Scout to get the badge.
The troop IS NOT given the option of deciding, after the fact, whether to
accept it or not.
If you are concerned about making sure your Scouts are learning something,
then evaluate the camp before you go, sit in on the badge work during the
week, and deal with problems BEFORE the card or certificate is issued, not
Basically, either we use the BOY SCOUT PROGRAM, including the rules we
disagree with, or we should be working with a different organization.
(And, yes, this has developed into a hot button for me, if you couldn't
tell. The same discussion has been going on over on rec.scouting.usa and
is repeated EVERY SUMMER in both forums.)
Bruce E. Cobern
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City