Re: Discourteous Scouts in DC
John A. Royar, Sr (royarjoh@FLASH.NET)
Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:24:12 -0600
I too am a Scoutmaster and lived in DC for over 7 years (89-96). While =
working with the Scouts of both Horizon and Banneker Districts of the =
National Capital Area Council, I found that the adult leaders and the =
Scouts of DC are very friendly and courteous. Please pass on to your =
friend that I'm sure the incident was a isolated case and he should not =
label all the Scouts from DC as being rude and discourteous. As the =
Nations Capitol, many people travel to DC and you will find all kinds of =
folks and are bound to run across one or a few that are not acting the =
way one should. I have been a part of 3 council Scout Shows on the mall =
and have been the Scout Show Chairman for Horizon Districts Scout Show 4 =
years and did not have any troubles other than once being protested by a =
As your friends knows, when you take a group of young Scouts and a few =
are acting in a non-Scout like manner, people will notice it. All scout =
leaders should take note and put a stop to this in order to not scar the =
name of Scouting!
I severed with Pack (CM and WL) and Troop (SM and MC) 343 of Bolling =
AFB, Troop (MC) 341 of Bellevue Navy Housing and was part of the Horizon =
District Staff serving several positions over my tenure (OA Chapter =
Advisor, Roundtable Chairperson, and District Trainer). Bolling is only =
4 miles south of the Capitol and we had many field trips downtown. Not =
once did I ever see a Scout act in this fashion.
John A. Royar, Sr.
SM T74, WSMR, NM
Tortugus Chapter, Gila Lodge #378
Yucca Council, El Paso, TX
*And a good old Bear too!
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From: Skip August x65017[SMTP:saugust@NOVA.CRAY.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 3:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Discourteous Scouts in DC
As a scoutmaster I had a very difficult time yesterday when I was =
to a friend of mine who just returned from his vacation. He took his
family, this includes a teenage son and two teenage daughters, to
Washington DC as part of their two week vacation. He was there July =
and 25 (Just before Jambo). He Was a scout as a child and has fond
memories of it.
When asked what was the most memorable part of the trip, his children =
it was the very rude and discourteous scouts in DC. He is positive that
his children will not want their kids in the scouting program after =
subjected to the pushing, shoving, butting in line, forced off of =
wide sidewalks by scouts (with their adult leaders) who would not leave
room for two way traffic, and just the general taking over of exhibits =
there were already other people in line.
I asked if this was the norm or an exception thinking a few can ruin it =
all. He said it was 1/4 to 1/3 of the scouts/troops they came upon. I
have known this person long enough that I can say he is not exagerating.
This really bothers me, because it reflects on all of us who work hard =
make sure our scouts/troops represent not only themselves but all of
I'm not sure what we can do to keep all units up to par in public, but I
see this behavior (by granted a minority, but not just a few) really
setting all our programs back a notch. I was wondering if any others =
into this problem in DC or elsewhere as large group of scout converged =
P.S. This family had a bit of a problem when they came upon the Boy =
Memorial in the Capital Mall. "Friendly? Courteous? Kind? They just
couldn't buy that.
Skip August email@example.com Cray Research Inc.
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