Re: Policy Question re: Delaying Advancement
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Tue, 22 Jul 1997 21:58:15 -0500
>> If you have a boy who "lives" for Scouting
>> - wears uniform or scout t-shirt to school every day
>> (if mom doesn't make him change)
>> - recruits people from school to be MB counselors
>> - volunteers to help at school, for Girl Scout events, for service
>> projects, anywhere he thinks he might be useful!
>> - never misses a meeting or campout (makes own arangements to
>> get there)
>> - prefered reading materials are scout handbook, fieldbook, Boys
>> Life, MB books, requirements book, Scouting Magazine, etc.
Can I add a couple more to it:
- who gets beat up frequently because he's a "Sissy Scout"
- whose parents like him in Scouts but would rather see him try out
for the little league ball team like their friends' children
- who would pass a dance for OA activities
- who, when a new patch, award or emblem is introduced, bother the
PANTS off of you or some other adult to find out how to earn, get,
wear, keep the item...and if I didn't have the resource to find out, he
would sit down and write to National or Pedro and find out!
I've had a couple of their cousins in my Troops.
>>Now SM says that he will not allow a 13 year old to become Eagle as
>>they would lack the maturity and camping experience required to be an
He does have the "signature say", but if I was that Scout, and I had someone
telling me "I'm sorry; you can't become an Eagle Scout in MY Troop until *I*
want you to", I would be looking for another Troop. And transferring to it
within the month, and continuing to work extra-hard toward Eagle in THAT Troop.
There's NOTHING in ANY of the BSA's official literature that prevents him
from making Eagle at 13, 12 or even 11 if it's humanly possible. All he HAS
to be is UNDER 18 at the time he earns Eagle.
Moderately disabled Scouts can work toward Eagle at a higher age limit.
But there's NO "minimum age" for earning Eagle. The REQUIREMENTS takes care
While there are some concerns, the Boy Scout program is geared for those
guys to work AT THEIR OWN PACE AND SPEED. Admittedly, I'm one of those
Scouters that feel that 13 is a bit young and that it should be a little
harder for Scouts to earn Eagle today as it was back in "my day" (middle
70s). However, no matter what *I* think about it, the policies are there
and we ALL follow them to make the program consistant everywhere we go.
What I CAN do about it, Ginger, is to SLOW the Scout down in other ways. I
can ask him and his fellow Scouts to earn their religious emblem before
earning Life. I can interest those in the outdoors to earn the Hornaday
Award medal before they earn Eagle. I can also interest those wanting more
leadership experiences to work with a new Troop as a core leadership group.
I CANNOT MAKE THEM DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS; I can, through my "knowledge of
each and every member of my group", work with each Scout and use that
motivation toward meeting their needs and the need for each Scout to grow
character-wise. That's what I feel that Scoutmaster should be doing; not
saying "I'm not signing you off until you turn 14", but rather, "Have you
considered working on your religious emblem? It's worth the time and
effort....how do you feel about it, Johnny?"
That Scoutmaster, Ginger, needs to get a life before he turns around and
every one of his Scouts leave his Troop for another one.
If Gary can't get that Scout, I would LOVE to reaquiant him with his fellow
"brother" ("cousin") Scouts around here!
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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