Re: We'd like to canoe on a pond with Cubs
Bob Knudson (rknudson@DU.EDU)
Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:50:08 -0000
>this doesn't sound like the same Denver Area Council I am a part of. We
>just shut down all cub canoeing in this council !! You are asking for
>trouble if you follow the above advice.
>Jack Cudney CChair. Troop 986. Denver Area Council. BSA Aquatics
>Instructor. If you feel flamed, you're right. Cubs deserve better
>supervision than this.
I'm sorry, maybe I wasn't clear in my message. I was trying to draw a
distinction between boating safety and insurance/risk management policy.
The guide to safe scouting is a product of organizational concerns of
both. While I accept that BSA can limit cub canoeing based on
insurance/risk management reasons, I don't accept that a family-based,
safely-operated canoeing outing is, by definition, inherently unsafe.
Safety first, ALWAYS, but I always have the right to share my canoe with
another family(s) - limited only to my personal concern for my liability.
There are many things that I would not do for liability reasons, but
safely conducted pond canoeing isn't at the top of my risk list. And if
a group of elementary school families wanted to safely spend a few hours
canoeing on a pond in a non-scouting event, the Guide to Safe Scouting
activity restrictions do not apply. The same applies to a group of
families, with cub-aged children, going camping -- a very normal
cultural practice for families in the Denver area.
I wasn't aware that cub canoeing has been shut down in the council, given
their presence (for webelos) at the Gateway District's Fall Camporee and
their presence this summer at Magness Adventure Camp. There certainly
hasn't been any mention of it at roundtables or in the council
newsletters or from the DEs. But then, by the rules, there shouldn't be
any cub canoeing outside of district or council events anyway.
YIS, Bob Knudson
CM, Pack 528 SA, Troop 476
Sierra Elementary School Zerger Elementary
Arvada, CO Westminster, CO
Gateway District, Denver Area Council
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