Re: We'd like to canoe on a pond with Cubs
Jack Cudney (jecudney@JUNO.COM)
Thu, 17 Jul 1997 20:43:38 EDT
On Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:22:38 -0000 Bob Knudson <rknudson@DU.EDU> writes:
>>>What do we need to do to rowboat or canoe on a pond with Cubs?
>>First get a copy of "Guide to Safe Scouting" from the council office.
>>tells you what is required and what is not permitted. Cubs are
>>to council/district events on flat water or controlled lake areas
>>of power/sail boats. You did not mention if this was a
>>event of just your pack. If just your pack, you are not permitted to
>This restriction is really frustrating to those of us who want to
>an interesting outdoor program, but I accept it as a condition of
>the deep pocket of BSA insurance. So if the families of your den
>want to canoe (outside of a district or council event), then you'll
>to do it as a non-sanctioned event - i.e. the pack or den is not doing
>it, just a group of families. You are therefore ON YOUR OWN with
>to deep pocket insurance - and be sure not to bring the scouting name
>into your event.
>For your good common sense reasons, you should probably comply with
>rest of the elements of safety afloat - check people's health
>and swimming ability, require PFDs, and a swimming adult should be in
>canoe with each child.
>Same restrictions applies if your pack (excuse me, group of families),
>like ours this weekend, wants to go camping outside a BSA-owned
>facility (Webelos excepted, of course).
>You might want to check with your DE or council to see if they've made
>any local changes/interpretations to the canoe policy. Some do, and
>BTW, I checked with my council on the above interpretation of issues.
>They told us to have fun camping, but just don't call it a scouting
>event. Next year, to avoid the issue and distraction, I'll book
>space at a council facility if I can.
> YIS, Bob Knudson
>CM, Pack 528 SA, Troop 476
>Sierra Elementary School Zerger Elementary
>Arvada, CO Westminster, CO
> Gateway District, Denver Area Council
this doesn't sound like the same Denver Area Council I am a part of. We
just shut down all cub canoeing in this council !! You are asking for
trouble if you follow the above advice.
Jack Cudney CChair. Troop 986. Denver Area Council. BSA Aquatics
Instructor. If you feel flamed, you're right. Cubs deserve better
supervision than this.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City