Re: Tiger-Wolf Transitions
AL DEBENEDETTO (alcjjj@MSN.COM)
Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:49:10 UT
From: Scouts-L Youth Group List on behalf of James D Wellborn 325 795 2010
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 1997 9:06 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Tiger-Wolf Transitions
I didn't notice a private e-ddress so here's my .02
I agree about getting jobs to parents. It helps avoid momentum
killers and having restless kids looking for and making misadventure.
Make sure to have an advancement person to check books etc as the
Den meeting is going on.
Shouldn't the achievements be signed off by the Den Leader not a parent? I
have often thought this idea would help me immensely but I, as the Den Leader,
not the parent need to sign these off and record them.
Make sure to have someone on top of whatever financial structure
the Den is using. The Pack as well as the Den usually operates on a
showstring. Any awards to be ordered need to be paid for. Check with the
Pack. (We retructured EVERYTHING this year to get out of the habit of
leaders paying for the overrun out of their pockets and waiting for the pay
How did you do this?
For special events coming up, have a what we need for next time -
The Den Leader needs to know what type of structure is going to be
used in the meeting. i.e. If you're practicing folding the flag in one
corner of the room, have an adult assistant be setting up the ----- craft
activity, knot relay, life preserver throwing contest.... whatever is
scheduled next. The set up person doesn't HAVE to have training (other
than your direction) and a few successful sessions might motivate that
person to become more "full-time" and then get training, etc.
I am definately going to implement this in my den meetings. I will probably
have a note with directions for what has to be done.
I am fortunate in having Den Chief. He has become accustom to
interacting in a very productive and helpful way. Den Chiefs can be a
blessing or an extra chore depending on their maturity and how they see and
are trained for their level of participation. That defines their being a
helper or just a bigger kid to plan for.
Unfortunately, my pack does not use Den Chiefs although we are trying.
Basic Training will help with "curriculum" timing and the Program
Helps suggests 200% of what can be done in one time period. Appropriate
break out groups at Roundtable can help, a University of Scouting is a gold
mine.GOLD MINE !!! G O L D M I N E !!!!
What is a University of Scouting?
Make sure the parents are aware of the advancement concepts and
their opportunities to do things "outside" the Den meetings as well as to
present a 10-15 minute activity that they enjoy or specialize in.
Make sure they understand that it doesn't take a year to earn a
Wolf badge and that the Electives are there for the opportunity to explore
different things with an age appropriate curricum already in place. They
are not there just in case someone happens to do that particular thing.
Den meetings probably WON'T cover all the areas needed for rank. Parents
need to know that.
This is where Den Newsletters come in handy as reminders for everyone.
Also, if the child-parent includes a list of achievements and
electives that have been completed since the last "book check", it will
help make the advancement person's job more accurate and easier.
A few of the parents in my den include a check list of the most recent
achievements and I have always found this extremely helpful. However, I think
I will make a form and pass it out to all parents in my den to complete as
achievements are completed.
Explain Belt Loops as an opportunity to experience things more
fully, not as a parent casting a net into the water and pulling out 5
awards for each Pack Meeting.
I've been involved with Dens which had three co-leaders and each
leader took turns for the full meeting. Each adult had preferences in
activities and style so it was a good blend for the kids and made the load
easier for the adults.
If the parents are aware of these roles which are needed to make
the Den run smoothly (their sons busy, active, happy), they are more likely
to be helpful rather than frustrated and looking to nail someone when a
snag comes up.
I probably gave more than my 2 cents so I'll stop for now.
I enjoyed reading your 2 cents and hope to hear more of your wonderful ideas.
Every little bit helps.
Den Leader/Advancement Chair
first and foremost MOM
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City