Re: Troubling problem
Judy Johnson (judybsa@INREACH.COM)
Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:16:16 PDT
make sure your chartering organization representative is involved in the
process. He or she has "absolute power" over the leadership in the troop.
411 West Lincoln Road
Stockton, California 95207
> As CC of what has been a terrific troop for the past several years, I now
> find myself faced with a serious problem I don't know how to handle.
> I want to get rid of a parent without punishing his child. The short
> version of the story is this. A few years ago this person's oldet son was
> in the troop. He didn't want to be there, he said his father forced him
> come (his behavior reflected his attitude.) The father registered as an
> but never attended training. From the beginning we had problems. The
> father made fun of other scouts, came and went on activities on his own
> schedule, took his son and another scout "out for pizza" during an outing
> because he said there wasn't enough food to go around (there was, he just
> didn't know it.), and other various actions that violated the "2-deep
> leadership" rule. It was so upsetting to the other leaders that I had
> several threaten to leave the troop if I didn't get rid of him. Well, my
> problem solved itself when his son finally quit.
> This spring, his youngest son showed up with an application in hand and
> AOL on his shirt. We couldn't tell this 10 year old he wasn't welcome.
> Word got out in the community that he was coming back. I had a Webelos
> leader, a State Trooper, tell me that if this individual was associated
> our troop, he could not be. When this man's son joined, this Cub leader,
> promised, took his 10 Webelos to another troop. Two other Webelos dens
> we would normally get also went to the other troop. Our crossovers this
> year dropped down to three.
> Well, things came to a head last week at summer camp. First, he refused
> allow his son to travel up with the troop. He took him to camp and was
> waiting when the rest of them showed up. While setting up camp he made
> himself a pest - telling everyone they needed this and that, and trying to
> convince scouts that the poles for their mosquito netting were too long,
> even though they had been used for several years. Just being a pain. On
> Tuesday, the Mother came up, and her son convinced her to take him home.
> was signed out, packed up, and left. Thursday, at about 6:00 AM, the SM
> up to go to the john. A Scout was sitting on the porch and said, "Guess
> who's back!" Thats right, the father brought the son back, dropped him
> in camp, never woke anyone up, never checked him in, just left him.
> Needless to say, the SM was livid. We feel that this borders on child
> abuse. That child could have walked off, run away, been kidnapped,
> whatever, and no one would have known for two days.
> It seems obvious to me that this person will continue to mock the rules.
> Some of my leaders want me to run him out of the troop. They point to the
> Son's behavior problems as further justification for getting rid of both
> them. Others, and I agree, say that we shouldn't throw the baby out with
> the bath water. Sure, the kid was a problem (I haven't gone into that),
> should be given another chance - he needs Scouting.
> The kicker came when I heard that this man complained that he came to camp
> at 6:00 AM and there were no leaders awake! Of course, when he made this
> complaint he didn't mention that he failed to wake them up. He was also
> overheard telling another scout to ingore the scoutmaster and hide shaving
> cream and a razor in his backpack two days before they left for Philmont.
> How can you teach responsibility to a scout when his parent doesn't
> My question to this austere group of Scouters is this. How can I mandate
> that this parent not bring his child to any activities, that he stay away
> from all activities, and that his presence is not welcome anywhere near
> scouting functions - without, in effect, making his son leave the troop as
> Any guidance you offer will be greatly appreciated.
> Ron Raab-Long
> PS: To those members of my committee who lurk here, no, I haven't sent the
> letter yet. While writing it, I thought I could use some more advice.
> Two Bays District, Dover, Delaware DelMarVa Council CC, Troop
> Recognition Dinner Chairman Bobwhite, NE-IV-35 Dad
> Boy Scout Training Coordinator Problem Captain, Delaware OM
> firstname.lastname@example.org District BS Training Coordinator
> Of all the jobs I do, I like Dad the best!
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