Re: Eagle Questions
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:58:02 -0500
I was smiling brightly, Manny, while I was reading your posting this
>How long does approval take? What is the range of hours expected from
>an Eagle Service project? Who can sign for the benefiting organization?
> What do you think of such-and-such as an Eagle project? Can I use
>helpers who are not in our troop? How about using adults? Who pays >for
the materials? Can I ask my grandfather to take a part in my Eagle
>Court? What is a Guest Speaker, and what is he expected to say? Who
>pays for the reception after the Court of Honor? What does the project
>write-up look like, and am I missing anything? Is a blood drive
>appropriate? How about a food drive, when we already have Scouting >for
Food? What do I do if we need power tools? Do I need to do all work >on
site, or can the work be done in staging areas, and transported for
>final assembly? Where can I find a counselor for this required merit
>badge? Can I get a donation from the Troop? Can you look over this
>rough draft of my proposal? Of my final report? Who requests Eagle
>letters of congratulation, and is it too late already? Do I wear my OA
>sash to the Eagle Board of Review? How about at the Court of Honor?
>None of the above is in the category of 'you have x merit badges to go;
>it's only y months until your 18th birthday; be sure to contact z before
>next Tuesday to set up you project.'
*smiling from ear to ear*
Many of those questions are answered for the Eagle candidate, his parents,
the Scoutmaster and anyone else through the Eagletips series.
The series of files, edited by myself, contains lots of GREAT ideas,
suggestions, points-of-view, ceremonies and inspirational information for
ANYONE looking to "groom an Eagle".
(small commercial here: Mark Ray from our list, has also wrote a great Eagle
Scout guidelines booklet; I don't have a copy here, but from what I
understand from others purchasing and reading it, it's a keeper and definate
"Eagle Scout Coach/Coordinator handbook". Mark, you may want to post your
email address for those interested in finding out more about the book.)
The files are located in the Scouts-L archives and available for the request
and downloading. Several of the files are very large, because they contain
scripts, outlines and examples of Eagle Scout ceremonies. They come with
the names and email addresses of those contributors, so that if you like (or
hate) something, you can email them directly and get additional information
(or tell them they're all wet and why)!
I've been working off and on with the next version, since it's been almost
two years since the last version was uploaded to our listserver archive.
I'll have it done sometime around the end of this month or the first of next
and will announce when EagleTips III will be uploaded.
There's also a Geos version of each EagleTip available from the website
below, and there's other options to getting the files by reading the
information at the site.
Some of the questions that you've brought up can ONLY be answered by an
"Eagle Scout Coordinator" in your unit. National has been playing with the
concept since we've brought it up in 1994 and since several folks went to
Philmont with a copy of the Eagletips and shared it with those other
participants and the National staff folks involved in Boy Scout Advancement
The biggest problem that has kept this from "policy" is the fact that there
seems to be little consistancy in "what consitutes an "Eagle Scout
Coordinator". The "job description" varies from local Council to local
Council and within that local Council, from District to District and from
within units in that same District.
>From what I've read so far in the string, the "Eagle Coach" or "Coordinator"
(I like "coach" better, but let's not get put-off by titles):
*Works closely with the Eagle Scout candidate and motivates him toward
completion of the Guidebook and project -- the hardest part of earning Eagle
*Works closely with the District's Advancement Chair or other person at the
District/Council level authorized to approve Eagle Scout service projects to
insure that the project selected/interested will meet the Eagle requirements
*Coaches/prods/"kickstarts" Eagle candidates whom have lost interest
in the process and whose projects seem to langer
*Working with the Scoutmaster, talks with the parents of the Eagle
candidate, insuring their understanding of the importance of the badge, the
importance of the Eagle doing most if not all of the leadership and
development, and coaching them toward a suitable Eagle Court of Honor which
is what the candidate, parents, Scoutmaster and unit can agree upon
*Responsible for getting the Eagle candidate to the Eagle Board of Review in
lieu of the Scoutmaster/Coach/Advisor
*And is responsible for insuring that Star and Life candidates become
involved in suitable service projects and providing ways for them (through
networking with other Eagle Coaches/Coordinators) to participate in Eagle
Scout service projects.
Add or take away from it.....what I hope to do with this (besides adding it
to the existing Eagletips, of course) is to somehow come up with an outline
in answering Melissa's general question as to "who appoints this person and
what do they do"? In this way, perhaps someone going to Philmont NEXT
summer, can approach this and say "Hey look....a (small) consensus of
Scouters have thrashed this out, and have come up with a suggested job
description for the "Eagle Coach/Coordinator"....take this and see if this
"plays in Peoria"!"
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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