Re: Eagle Project Leadership
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:25:44 -0500
Dick Sofian asked us all:
>My son is presently undertaking his Eagle project. This will require a
>good bit of research at local libraries, and the county court house. I
>tried to impress upon him that doing the research himself would not
>demonstrate leadership, but that delegating those responsibilities to
>He has subsequently asked me to do some of the work. I now feel I
>am treading in dangerous territory. Where is the line between assisting
>in work required for the project to be completed, and actually doing the
>project myself? I admittedly have a vested interest in seeing the work
>being done correctly, and yet not appearing to be a parent giving their
>son a free ride. I know how much work he has done in planning the
>project, and getting all the approvals, and there is much more that will
>have to be done, but I don't want to give any appearance at all that I am
>providing him with an excuse for not doing the work himself.
You've already identified your "parameters" under which you would help out,
Dick....stick to them and I don't see any problems. What happens frequently
is that Mom, Dad or concerned outsider offers to "help out" and end up
"doing all of the leg work", leaving the candidate standing around not
understanding what's going on but having to "follow through
with it anyways".
>For the record, I am not registered with the troop in any capacity, and
>am just another warm body willing to give assistance. He has also
>recruited his sister to fill out forms, and his mother to provide needed
Again, that's fine as long as the project itself has been LED and CARRIED
OUT by the Scout involved. Eagle Projects in the past have involved entire
organizations, outside of Scouting and many Eagle girlfriends have been
involved in "typing everything up nice" when such paperwork documents were
important to an Eagle Board of Review.
Sit down with your son, explain what you've told us here, and keep to those
parameters. Don't cross it, not even once (in danger, of course!)
because once you've done that, the candidate "assumes" that it's okay and
you'll end up doing the Eagle project while the candidate receives the Badge.
And that's not fair to anyone.
>The scouts in his troop are all young, and do not have access to
>transportation to and from the county seat. Although it would probably
>be a great learning experience for many of them to experience the red
>tape and bureaucracy of our local and federal governments for
>themselves, I question whether they could cut through this maze
>without some adult guidance.
It would be a SUPER learning experience, Dick.....as Scoutmaster of a Troop
overseas, my Scouts frequently had to seek out written and verbal
permissions from various military organizations and agencies, fill out forms
for their approval, and be coached as to "what you should say when you're in
there" with senior military leaders/mayors of communities while working on
their service projects.
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