Re: Cub Scout Camping
John T. Peeples (john.peeples@STJUDE.ORG)
Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:09:47 -0500
Following these posts on Cubs camping; from what I've seen there are two
major issues - 1) age appropriate programs and 2) adult participation.
I've been camping with both of my sons most of their lives - the oldest
(now in the Troop) loves to tell people he's been camping since age 3, the
youngest (1st year webelos) started at age 4. Out of necessity these boys
have "tagged along" with dad on many a Boy Sccout outing, these were okay
but what they really liked was Cub Resident Camping.
Resident Camp here in the Chickasaw Council is 4 days and 3 night and
requires a parent (or other adult family member) for each cub through 3rd
grade (exceptions made for those with more than one kid); Webelos are
allowed to camp by Dens with 2 adults per 8 boys. The first year my
youngest went to RC we were placed in a den of mixed ages, he never
complained that year; however, the next year his brother was in a Webelos
den with leaders and he and I were in a Bear den with 5 other boys just
out of 2nd grade and their dads. In this age specific den we did lots of
"silly" stuff the Webelos didn't like but the younger boys ate up; it was
easier to adjust the program to their abilities and interests than when
they were mixed with all ages. I've really enjoyed this time with my own
kids; we had a chance to be dad and son(s) and not Cubmaster and cub - all
too often those of us in leadership roles end up missing out on time with
our own children; its great to go to resident camp as a parent not a
I think Resident Camps for Cubs is great if done in an age sepcific
program with parents present - new wolf cubs don't need to try 2nd year
webelos activites and Webelos need more challange than wolf cubs. I've
seen too many packs that offer lots of camping activites to their cubs and
like many of you have seen cubs burned out by 6th grade and bored with the
basics of Scout Camping. The Cub program is designed to address the
needs, interests and abilites of boys as the grow up, if camping and other
activities follow this plan then, yes, these boys will be great Scouts and
not burned out early.
In our district we have one Pack that takes their entire pack on a
"parent/son" canoe trip each spring - I'm not sure how the get this
approved by the council, especially after a leader refused to listen to a
ranger about dangerous conditions and proceeded to wrap his canoe around a
tree - no injuries, just a very bad example to everyone involved. If cubs
start with this trip as Wolf Cubs and do it for 4 years, will they be
interested in a basic canoe trip with the troop later? I've seen a couple
of these boys join a Troop and get bored while the other boys without
canoe experience had to learn the basics; the "experienced" ones ended up
These are just a couple of my observations of the types of problems we get
into when leaders and parents fail to see the big picture and develop Cub
and Boy Scout programs that give a boy a chance to grow up in the program
with new challenges each year. I don't have a problem with camping and
most outdoor activities for cubs if they can follow the simple "KISMIF"
formula that will work for their age.
Okay, I'm just working on catch up with my mail before tommorows "cease
fire" and scrapbook session, I'm sure I'll have more as I get through a
weeks worth of posts.
John T. Peeples, Scoutmaster Troop / Pack 231
First Presyberian Church, West Memphis, Arkansas
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