Re: Eagle Board of Review Question
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:57:21 -0500
Marc followed-up the comments about having the Scoutmaster as part of the
Eagle Board of Review:
>I'm finding this thread interesting because our District invites
>(requires?) the Scoutmaster to attend the Eagle BORs, both project
>approval and final review.
You're saying that your District does TWO Boards of Review?? Isn't that
like, in GROSS VIOLATION of the BSA's Advancement policies??
The Eagle project approval is NOT a Board of Review, and should never be
considered one. It's just what it says....approval of the Eagle Scout
service project and it should be between the Advancement Chair in your
District, the Scout (and his parents, if he feels they need to be there;
personally, I don't see them being there), and *if neccessary* the
Scoutmaster or Committee Chair of the Scout's Troop or Team.
The Eagle Scout Board of Review is done as stated in the BSA Advancement
Procedures booklet and in several BSA publications, most notably the
Scoutmaster's Handbook and the Troop Committee Guidebook.
> During the deliberation at the final review,
>when the scout is out of the room, I'm asked my opinion of the boy.
Your input isn't really needed, Marc. Your input comes in the form of the
Scoutmasters' Conference done PRIOR TO and NOT A PART OF the Board of
Review. During that Scoutmasters' Conference, that's your last time to
recommend (by your signature on the application), deny (by the
absense of your signature) or otherwise indicate to the members of the Board
of Review (by a letter or statement attached to the application) your
opinions, thoughts and emotions toward this candidate for Eagle Scout
rank. No, that's not documented anywhere in the Advancement Procedures
booklet, but your ABSENCE FROM THE BOARD OF REVIEW IS.
That was the way that *my* Eagle Scout Board of Review was done, and they
had me waiting outside for a whole 15 minutes (actually making me sweat it
out, as if I wouldn't pass!). However, what's done in the past was in the
past; your District needs to get a copy of that booklet and pay close
attention to what it says is the right way to go about this!
Now, what's gonna happen if your District ignores the book?? Nothing,
probably for several years. Or next month, some snotnosed kid and his
snotnosed parents are going to complain because "my son didn't get his
Eagle....and I know the rules and the Scoutmaster wasn't supposed to be
there...nada nada nada....", and the next thing your CE knows, his Area
Director's breathing fire down the backside of the Council Exec's neck about
what *your District's* been doing for years.
So, *my recommendation* is that your District acknowledges SOON that "hey,
we've been doing these reviews inconsistant with what National has put out,
and we'll conform....in the meantime, Scoutmasters are asked to bring their
Scouts to the Eagle Board of Review, but not to attend or make any
statements during the Review."
>I would think that a Scoutmaster would bring out points regarding the
>boy's true character that might not be evident during a relatively quick
That's what those letters of recommendation are for, Marc...and that's where
the Board of Review doesn't merely "rubber stamp" the application with their
signatures before the Scout appears; they try to find out as much as
possible (and that CAN entail calling the Scoutmaster or Coach up and asking
about the Scout's performance, etc. BEFORE the Board of Review; if I was the
Chair, I would ask for a statement from the Scoutmaster anyways, so that the
Scout would have it in his "personal records"....those letters make GREAT
"recommendation letters" for college!) about the Scout.
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