Re: Eagle BOR
Young, Lawrence S. (Young@COURIER4.AERO.ORG)
Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:56:00 -0700
Thanks, Marc for your insightful comments.
I would add that:
1. Not only could a boy be turned down, but he certainly
could be delayed based on such input.
2. By the time the BOR has made its decision, and
informed the boy as to why, its really too late for the
boy to try to rebut the reasons in time to salvage his
3. Often, a BOR will give some generalized reasons
for its action, without giving the details of what was
presented to them. Sometimes, the purpose is actually
to spare the SM from being put on the spot.
4. Finally, since one of the things we're trying to teach here
is citizenship, and a high-level of respect for the principles
of our country, (while we're on the subject of the SM's input
about the Scout's character) shouldn't the BOR be the first
to demonstrate to the Eagle candidate the meaning of the
right (given in the U. S. Constitution) to have an opportunity
to face his accuser?
Just to sum up my point of view, I think that anything at all
that is presented to the BOR should be done openly, and with
every opportunity to the boy to respond.
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Re: Eagle BOR
Date: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 8:39AM
Larry does bring up some good points. I have no definite answer because
I've never heard of a scoutmaster's input being used to turn a boy down,
so I don't know the consequences if that would happen. One thing that's
taught about all BORs, not just Eagle ones, is that the boy should be
told why he did not pass, so if the Eagle Board turns a boy down because
of a scoutmasters comments, then, IMHO, the boy should find out and at
least be able to reply before leaving the room.
The next time I run into an Eagle Board member, I think I'll ask about
SM Troop 98
ASM Troop 412
> From: Young, Lawrence S.[SMTP:Young@COURIER4.AERO.ORG]
> Reply To: Young, Lawrence S.
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 11:05 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
> Subject: Eagle BOR
> Is it fair to ask the SM's opinion at the BOR with the Scout sent
> out of the room? In case the SM has derogatory comments, the boy
> has no way of knowing, much less any opportunity to respond.
> Does this mean that a SM who doesn't like a boy, has a clear shot
> to disqualify him from becoming an Eagle Scout, and without having
> to be held accountable for what he says.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City