Re: Eagle requirements
Peter Townsend (ptownsen@HYDRA.CS.GMR.COM)
Mon, 9 Jun 1997 09:31:24 -0700
Sorry it has taken so long to get to reading these messages.
I would add just one comment:
<<Blaine Jackson says:I have a scout who turns 18 on 6/10. Scout told me
<<he was almost done w 2 MB's. I signed one. The MB counselor says the
<<scout has not met the first 2 sentences of requirement number 5. The
<<scout is somewhat confused. It appears he thought that he had met
<<The MB counselor says that he will not accept anything less than the
<<requirement as written
<From: "Derleth, Michael" <mderleth@ELI.NET>
<My first comment would be toward the MB counselor. I certainly hope
<he was following up occasionally with the Scout during the three months
<of budgeting to provide feedback and assistance. If counselor has
<waited until the end to reject the boy, he's not doing his job.
<Is our counselor a guiding mentor, or a traffic cop waiting to pounce
<for the least little infraction? Depending on my answer, it might
<be the last time -I- would let him counsel this MB.
Mike: I'll take issue with this. The counselor is just that, it
is NOT his responsibility to monitor progress of the boy, it is
the boy's responsibility to confer with the counselor whenever he
wants to confirm he's on the right path. Counselors generally do
not have the time to follow up on each boy they counsel. The
counselor is a guiding mentor, but that does not mean that he must,
or even should, be in there monitoring every action of the boy.
It sounds like the boy MAY have mis-interpretted the requirement.
It sounds like the counselor has to weigh whether the requirement
has been met or not.
But the bottom line is, "If the boy had not waited until the last
minute to do the MB, he'd have had the breathing ability to do
things right." I give the boy a lot of sympathy for finally
deciding to go for Eagle and possibly notreaching it; but I give
him no sympathy if he misses it because he procrastinated.
As a 15 yr advancement chariman for our troop and a current
member of the district advancment committee, I've seen my share
of boys that just barely squeeked thru, and those that just
missed it because they waited to the last minute.
<In short, there seems blame enough to go around in this case.
<Making the Scout shoulder all the blame seems not quite fair.
<Look for the middle ground.
It seems to mee that no blame is due the counselor, he is
doing his job just the way he is suppose to. I have to
believe that the boy's scoutmaster (and/or his father)
have reminded the boy of the 18th birthday requirement for
Eagle. Assuming that is so, the blame goes squarely on the
boy. (Blame is not the right word but disappointment might be).
Keeping FUN in scOUTING, Pete Townsend ASM T188 Rochester Hills MI
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City