Re: Starting an Explorer Post
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:23:10 -0500
Mark Dryer asked:
>I am seeking the wisdom of the net. My son has expressed an interest in
>joining an Explorer Post specializing in a specific area. There are
>currently no Posts of this type in our city. I have spoken to someone >who
runs a business selling equipment for this activity and training >people to
use the equipment. He would be glad to sponsor a Post >PROVIDING the youths
obtain all of their training and equipment from >him.
In other words, he wants to offer a training program and not an Explorer
Post. Exploring is about EXPLORATION (hence the name), not about TRAINING.
While many Explorer posts do include training in a specified area, it is NOT
EXCLUSIVELY just training. I would pass on it and find a chartered partner
organization that is willing to work with the youth of the Post in
developing THEIR OWN PROGRAM (and that program's going to change from year
to year; Mr. Businessman's "program" may not have that flexibility and he
may get frustrated after the first year).
> My first question is, even though he would offer discounted prices, is
Proper yeah. Ethical? Questionable.
If he was doing something like drivers' training or truck driving or
something like that, a REASONABLE "membership fee" to offset the costs of
the trucks, cars, etc. and insurance may be okay; but if he's using
Exploring to "line his pockets" for teaching for example "computer
literacy", that's not cool.
>Secondly, when I talked to my DE to find out how to start up a Post I
>don't think we communicated because the answers he gave me were not >to the
questions I asked.
In other words, he was trying to "read to you" what he's read and memorized.
He wasn't *listening to you* as you explained this type of Post and wanted
to know SPECIFIC answers to your questions.
Don't feel bad, Mark. A LOT of pros do that.
>I was an Explorer from 1962 - 1968. To the best of my memory, at that time
>a boy (this was before Exploring went co-ed) had to be 14 or in the 9th
>grade to join Exploring. I know that Exploring is now co-ed and that the
>ages are 14 thru 20 years and 364 days;
>but is a 9th grade youth who has not yet reached his/her 14th birthday
If the young man is in high school or junior college, he can become an
Explorer. Period. The ages for Exploring for boys AND girls is 14 and
completed the eighth grade through 20 (which means at age 21, the Explorer
becomes an adult member of the program and the advancement program ends for
Explorers); or 15 years of age regardless of grade to 20.
The reference to this is found in the Explorer Officers' Handbook as well as
in the Rules and Regulations of the BSA.
>Does a boy who wishes to continue earning merit badges and Scout rank >have
to maintain primary membership in a Troop and do his advancement >thru the
Troop, or may he transfer to a Post and advance undeer auspices >of the Post?
Boy Scout rank should be continue to be earned under a Boy Scout Troop.
He can continue his progress toward Eagle if he's First Class or better AND
a registered member of his Troop. He can meet the leadership and service
requirements, as well as tenure by membership in the Post, Troop, Team or
all three. However, to get the best from the Boy Scout advancement, he
should continue his service to the Troop. Exploring has the Exploring
G.O.L.D. Award which can be earned by any Explorer regardless of Post/Ship's
speciality which comes *alfully close* to Eagle.
The reference to that is found in the Boy Scout Advancement procedures
Your DE must be new, Mark.....a quick check in those two booklets in his
"four-pound binder" should have revealed those answers and he would have
looked a lot smarter than he sounds *smiling* (he's probably a good
guy, don't be too hard on him...Exploring is that "other program" that very
few folks go over to because of the diversity of the program).
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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