Trivial Trivia III ANSWERS (2/2)
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Tue, 27 May 1997 11:05:14 -0500
These are the answers to the last half of the "Trivial Trivia III" questions:
7. The BSA frequently changes the listing of Merit Badges required for
attainment of Eagle because of the nature of our lifestyles and because
many of the earlier badges reflected a different living and working
For instance, Cooking, Nature, Public Health, and Firemanship were all
merit badges at various times required and later taken from the required
list...other merit badges include Bird Study, Pioneering, Athletics,
Pathfinding (doesn't exist anymore) and Civics (doesn't exist anymore).
Later, Citizenship in the Home and Conservation of Natural Resources
both shelved and became optional merit badges and the Communications
merit badge was switched from optional to required.
And those that answered "the ones from the present Eagle list (either
Lifesaving or Emergency Preparness and either Swimming, Sports or
Personal Fitness) not used for Eagle" as part of your answer, give
yourself a half of a point each.
8. James West was "special" because of several reasons: the most notable
of those reasons was that he was our FIRST Chief Scout Executive, the
most senior paid director of our programs; and because Jim West suffered
from polio and was raised in an orphange. Despite all of that, he
graduated toward the top of his class from Law school.
(taken from the Scout Handbook)
9. Television fans had a lot to "cheer" about when two of their stars
later starred in movies which had something to do with Scouting:
Bruce Willis starred with Cybil Shepard in "Moonlighting" (remember that?
Dave and Matty) and later starred in "The Last Boy Scout", an
action-adventure movie that had more Scouts and Scouters going to see if
there was *actually* going be a connection between Willis's character and
On the other "side" of the tube, was comedianne Shelly Long, whom co-starred
with Ted Danzing for several years in the Emmy-award winning "Cheers".
Remember her?? She was dizty but caring, concerned Diane Chambers. During
a break from the small-screen, Long starred in a knock-off of Girl Scouting
in "Troop Beverly Hills". While lots of girls snickered and laughed, the
Girl Scouts of the USA didn't like even the hint of characterization,
especially when the movie centered on cookie sales...
their "main source of local monies".
(TV Guide/Postings from Scouts-L)
10. The Skill Award program DOES NOT EXIST anymore in the BSA's
advancement program. What were Skill Awards?? They were small brass
belt loops which were used as "instant recongition" between the months
that Scouts spent working from Tenderfoot to Second Class to First
Class. The program was dumped mainly due to the cost of the loops
and because Scoutmasters and others were not handing the awards out
immediately after the Scout earned them, waiting for a formal occasion
instead to present the loop...which defeated the purpose behind earning
and having the program. The present advancement trail between
Tenderfoot and First Class incorporated those 12 skills, and the Family
Life Merit Badge is a outgrowth from one of those Skill Awards, Family
The other eleven Skill Awards were: Camping, Cooking, Hiking, First
Aid, Conservation, Environment, Swimming, Community Living, Personal
Fitness and Citzenship. A Scout had to earn eight of the Skill Awards,
including Citizenship (required for Tenderfoot), Hiking and Cooking
(required for Second Class), Camping and First Aid as part of the
requirements for First Class Scout rank.
11. The Boy Scouts of America only had four National Scout
Commissioners in its history, and Bill Hillcourt was NEVER one of the
four (although there was a petition going around the nation in 1976
asking the BSA to please consider William "Green Bar Bill" Hillcourt
for the National Commissioner position...they didn't and it was the BSA's
The first National Commissioner was Daniel Carter Beard, one of
Scouting's pioneers. The second National Commissioner, and the first
Black man to hold a national BSA position, was Earl Graves, publisher
of Black Enterprise and Black Collegian magazines. However, between
Beard and Graves, there were two others -- Adjutant General William
Verbeck and Colonel Peter Bomus -- whom have served as National
Scout Commissioner. There's not much on either of those two men,
except that Verbeck served as a principal of a military school in
upstate New York; while Bomus, later a General, formed the National
Highway Protection Association (NHPA, later to be called the MPSA,
or Military Personnel Scouts of America, and later onward to be called
the National Scouts Association before it's death in the early 70s)
thinking that Scouts could be used in the upkeep of our highways and
Both Bomus and Verbeck was never known publically as National Scout
Commissioners, even though BSA letterhead at the time identified both
There is nobody holding the position presently of National Commissioner.
Of course, the BSA like just about every other national organization,
has been "courting" retired General Colin Powell, a former Boy Scout,
to serve as it's newest National Commissioner.
(Graves and Beard are the two that most people would have known about;
the other two are buried deep in the BSA's history; I found them from
Bill Murray's "The History of the Boy Scouts of America".)
12. The lyrics come from the Oak Ridge Boys' 1985 hit "Check Out the
Boy Scouts!", and is so popular among those attending their concerts,
that they have incorporated it into their appearances, particularily
if they know that they have a large number of youth in the audience.
The song was used for a series of commericials emphasizing the BSA's
new outdoor slant to it's programming...and was first played to Scouts
during that summer's National Scout Jamboree (so listen to what the
performers play....it COULD be the start of a new ad campaign for us!!)
Again, thanks for playing.....this one was a little hard, I admit, and again
my deep apologies to those outside the BSA/GSUSA for not "including
them"...be assured that the next one WILL BE "worldwide" in scope, and again
will feature questions about our Girl and Boy Scouting programs here as well
as in other places around the world.
I'll be working on some other projects today (have two deadlines to meet
today!), so I'll send to Jon on Thursday the summaries from the postings to
me as well as the questions and answers for our archives.
My mom-in-law's making me go eat a pizza with her....so I've got to get!!
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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