Re: Need Advice on 'Special' Scout
Mark D. Wright (mdw@ROANOKE.INFI.NET)
Sun, 18 May 1997 10:00:52 -0400
Gary Piper wrote:
> I strongly disagree. If the boy is truly ADD he needs just a little
> handling. He also needs scouting. ADD is not an excuse for miss
> behavior, it
> may be a reason. I would not condone miss behavior because of ADD, I
> just handle it a little different.
> Pay special attention to this boy for a while. When he starts acting
> up step
> in right then and in a caring compassionate tone of voice ask him why
> he is
> acting the way he is, what is wrong. He probably will say he does not
> and he probably does not. Calm him down and send him back. What will
> is that you bring his attention back on his behavior and he will start
> to self
> correct the problem. I had one boy that got to the point where I
> would just
> look at him when he was going off and he would walk away from the
> group, get
> control and return. These boys are great kids and just need a little
> help. If the boy goes beyond acceptable behavior pass out your
> discipline at that time, but please try and stop it before it reach
> Troop 268
> Pikes Peak Council
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scouts-L Youth Group List On Behalf Of Paul H. Brown
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 1997 5:12 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
> Subject: Re: Need Advice on 'Special' Scout
> I hope the Tylenol is just for personal use.
> That being said, I wonder why you're putting up with this "scout." It
> appears that nobody has explained to him (and, perhaps, his Mom) what
> vital difference is between Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. IMO it is that
> cubs have adult leaders, while Boy Scouts have boy leaders. If he is
> willling to learn this difference, and deal with it, he's just not
> to "make it" as a scout.
> An adult cooking/cleaning at a Webelos camp-out is OK (those who are
> active in the Webelos program, correct me if I'm wrong, please). An
> adult doing these things for scouts is an untrained adult. Scouts are
> do these things for themselves.
> A solution to a disruptive scout is to remove him from the meeting.
> deprives him of his peer "audience" and gains him nothing. If he's
> busy to work on the MB with the rest of the scouts, let him fail to
> the MB. Some of us learn from the failures of others. Others from
> own failures. Sadly, some don't learn at all. Even more distressing
> the one who could've learned from his own failures, if he suffered the
> consequences of those failures, but learned nothing because
> adults protected him from those consequences. Don't be that adult.
> Paul H. Brown, KD4UPD
> I used to be an Antelope, WB 82-66
> Pack Committee Chairman, Unit Commissioner, Roundtable Commissioner
> George Washington District, National Capital Area Council, BSA
I could not agree with Gary more! As the father of a young man with
ADD, and the ASM of a Troop which suffers along with four others, his
suggestions were right on the money.
You will find that many ADD youth are of above-average intelligence.
That is actually a greater impediment to their success! We tend to look
at them and say (to ourselves or other folks) "But Johnny *should* be
able to do that! He is as smart and capable as Billy." We're half
right. He is as smart and capable. But, because of a chemical
imbalance in his brain, Johnny *can't* do it.
We have one young boy in our Troop (just joined as part of the new Scout
Patrol) who is severely ADD. By the meeting time he is *way* into the
Ritalin-free zone! He came to the Fall Camporee with us as a Webelo and
was completely out of control. We asked his father about it later, and
were told that they had not wanted to send his medicine with him. We've
solved this problem. The father (former Life Scout and OA) has joined
us as an ASM - and they will *never* send Jeffery to camp without his
ADD is not something which these kids will 'grow out of.' They can
learn to adapt and function with the condition, but it will always be a
part of them. If their parents want to send them without medication,
ask if that is the Doctor's recommendation? If not, then they need to
send the medication along, just as they would for insulin, or any other
medication which the child needs on a daily basis.
I also agree with the idea of 'reminding' the boy about his behavior.
Most of them *want* to behave well. A gentle reminder will go a long
way with them.
Pack 584 Committee Chair
Troop 136 ASM
Big Lick District, Blue Ridge Mts. Council
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