Re: Totin' Chip and Hazing
Jim Peterson (jpeterson@TZNET.COM)
Fri, 9 May 1997 23:48:36 -0500
At 08:30 AM 5/9/97 -0400, Joseph Alessi wrote:
>My question to the list: has this tradition also succumbed to PC'ism? Can
>a toten' chip be "revoked" under current policy?
Hoo Boy! Here we go again. This was the very first thread I posted to when
I first joined Scouts-L and boy did I get flamed. Here's what I learned from
- Many people consider cutting corners off Totin' Chip cards as a form of
- Many people consider cutting corners off Totin' Chip cards as a
tradition and a reasonable form of punishment/reinforcement of proper
handling of woods tools.
- Cutting corners off cards makes it easier to track who has screwed up
than something as difficult to track as revoking "Totin' Rights" for a given
length of time.
MY PERSONAL OPINION:
Sorry for yelling, but I don't need the flames again, this is how I feel. If
a young professional makes an error in the work place, do we physically
damage their College Diploma? No. The Totin' Chip card is something the boys
worked for, learned for and earned. I don't believe that the card should be
physically damaged. I prefer to correct errors in wood tool safety by
temporarily revoking the "Totin' Rights". In an example like the one Joseph
decribed, I would ask the Scout to give me the knife for the remainder of
the meeting. I would also ask him to turn over his Totin' Chip card.
Depending on the exact circumstances, I may hold the card for a few hours, a
day or a week. Before returning the card, I would ask the Scout to explain
to me what he had done wrong to loose his Totin' Chip and ask for his
assurance that he would be more cautious about following the woods tools
safety rules in the future.
The Scoutmaster Handbook has no guidelines for handling Totin' Chip
revocation. The Guide to Safe Scouting says nothing about the Totin' Chip.
The SCout Handbook, pg 76 - Tenth Edition, Fifth printing, says
"I realize that my 'totin' rights' can be taken from me if I fail to follow
these requirements" . You make the call.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City