Re: Chief Scout Executive
Bruce E. Cobern (bec@PIPELINE.COM)
Thu, 1 May 1997 10:06:30 -0400
At 06:09 AM 5/1/97 -0500, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
As usual, Hugh, I agree with ALMOST everything you wrote, and this isn't
even an advancement topic. :)
>I am amused that it takes so many words to discuss the situation.
>1. According to news reports the CSE broke the law by attempting to carry a
>loaded weapon onto a plane.
>2. If he has received death threats, failure to provide some defense(s)
>against their success would be idiotic.
>3. His defense(s) should not violate the law.
I agree with everything up until this point.
>4. Talk about resignation is premature by at least one court decision.
Here is where I think I disagree. Whether he ultimately is CONVICTED of the
felony or not, he has essentially admitted to being GUILTY of the felony.
(At least of the felony of attempting to bring the weapon on the plane.
This ignores the probably additional violations of concealed weapon laws in
at least two states.) He also has clearly evidenced a lack of concern for
safety by failing to KNOW he had a loaded weapon with him, etc. I think
whether the ultimate conviction is for a felony or whether, as is much more
likely, he pleads down to a misdemeanor, the nature of the offense is still
one of a felony.
I am sure we all know of volunteers who have been removed from the
organization because they have been ACCUSED of certain acts, without the
organization ever waiting for conviction, and in many cases have been
refused participation even after acquittal or the dropping of charges.
I think issue here is that this person is the public spokesman for the
organization and as such probably should be held to a higher standard than
those of us in the trenches. I would hope that his resignation is already
in the mail (if for no other reason then because it would certainly be the
honorable thing to do) but, alas, my feeling is that we might not see it,
>What else is there to say - except I'm pro-gun?
To stay above board, I'm not and feel that too many people are allowed to
carry. However, I also understand that where the right to carry exists it
can be done with no legal consequences. So, my concern here is legal
violation and role model, not whether he SHOULD have had the right to carry.
Bruce E. Cobern
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City