Barry C Runnels (Barry_C_Runnels@MMACMAIL.JCCBI.GOV)
Fri, 25 Apr 1997 15:00:12 CST
>For many, the program has become some kind of hybrid that is neither fish
>nor fowl. To repeat, Webelos is a Cub Scout program and not some amalgam
>of Boy and Cub Scouts.
> There is so much good in the Cub program that it can stand on its own.
OK Bob, you have probably seen some negative effects from leaders who
changed from the traditional or typical Webelos program. However, the way a
read your post (and I don't think you mean it this way) Packs shouldn't add
or change any part of thier programs because it is good enough the way it
is. I have seen new ideas and changes enhance and boost a Webelos program.
One of the reasons I am on Scout_L is to find more new ideas.
Many here feel a BOR for Webelos does not help the Webelos or the Scouting
Program, yet I have done a very modified version of the SM conference and
BOR with my Webelos with very positive results from the boys and parents.
It's not for all Dens and in fact only leaders with BOR experiance would
understand any advantage to given it to Webelos.
The problem comes from the methods and intentions of the activity. Tom's
pack didn't no why they were doing BOR. For them it was a Pack tradition.
Tradition is OK when there is positive purpose and understanding behind it
but NOTHING in Scouting or in life for that matter should be done without a
positive meaningful intention behind it.
>It does a kid no good what so ever to introduce him to Boy Scouts'
>beauracracy ahead of time.
My experience shows otherwise. If a Scout is burned out from Cub Scouting
and doesn't know the difference between Cubs and Boy Scouts, you will loose
him. Give him some insight to Boy Scouts however and you give him a reason
to finish Cub Scouts to get to the FUN STUFF. I have one Webelos that has
talked about nothing else except Boy Scouts since our SM conference. My
goal with the SM conference and BOR was to help my Webelos feel good about
themselves in the Den and get them excited about Boy Scouts next year.
Problem is how much Boy Scouts insight and experiance do you give the
Webelos to wet his appetite without giving him that "been there done that
attitude". You won't know if you don't go and find out. Scouts_L has helped
me a lot here
A few years ago 50% of the Webs in our Pack didn't even considered joining
Boy Scouts. We decided to change that trend with a changed attitide
torwards the boys and our Webelos program. We gave them a program that
matched their maturity and we quit treating them like Bears and Wolves.
In the last three years, 100% of our Webelos crossed over into Scouts with
90% still there. Almost all the Webelos leaders are either SMs or ASMs.
Manyt good leaders are always trying new ideas, trying to improve his/her
program for the boys. This requires trial and error, success and failure.
Now you can asked experienced leaders for their opinions and ideas but you
still end up going into some uncharted territory. I thinks this applies to
all areas of Scouts. I know for a fact this is where we got the much
improved Tiger program last year.
As a CM I had to try many new ideas to keep Den leaders from burning out,
get more adults involved and maintain a FUN atmosphere for the boys. I'll
bet we have tried a 100 different way to make selling popcorn more fun. We
always encourage new ideas. Most worked, and some didn't but our Pack now
has the highest ratio of boys in scouts of all the schools in our district.
Have a good Scouting weekend.
"Mighty" Pack 339
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City