Re: New Post
George Crowl (WILLIAMM@ZIAVMS.ENMU.EDU)
Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:34:10 -0600
1. What is the difference between a Venture Crew and an Explorer
The Venture Crew age is generally 13, max 17. Exploring age
is 14 and in 9th grade, or 15 any grade, with a max of 20. ASMs
can be 18, Associate Advisors need to be 21.
Girls can be invited guests on Venture Crew activities, but
they are not members of the troop. In an Explorer post, they are
full members of the post. I believe this can be important, for
two reasons. While BSA says they will cover guests for
insurance, etc., it is absolutely clear they are covered if they
are post members. Second, full membership removes any "second
class" or "we vs them" or "guys vs gals" issues.
The school solution on uniforms is the green shirt, or a
"distinctive dress identity" made up by the post. Many use T-
shirts. As a "green shirt" Explorer from the 50s, I love it, but
it isn't really very popular. Green tabs on a Scout shirt (legal
on and off, but not right now) would work, they can't throw you
2. Do High Adventure Posts meet weekly, monthly, or at the
discretion of the Post advisor?
Posts normally meet twice a month, plus one activity. The
driving factor in this should be the desires of the youth. If
they have a youth-planned high adventure activity every month,
they will need the two meetings. At various times over the past
17 years, my post has met weekly because my youth wanted it.
More often, they stuck to two meetings per month. I do not think
the Advisor should call meetings, the youth should schedule
3. Should troop members stay active in troop if they join a
The individual boy determines if he stays active in the
troop. I personally encourage it, especially if he is
advancement oriented, because most posts have difficulty
encouraging merit badges and Boy Scout advancement. It is
available, it is just usually not executed well. There is also
available a recognition for Explorers, the Explorer Gold Award,
which is an almost unknown Eagle equivalent, and widely ignored.
For those few motivated by it, it is a very useful and rewarding
4. What is the catch with it being co-ed? I'm not sure but I
think there has to be a female leader present if conducting co-ed
The basic rules are that you need to have coed
leadership on coed overnight activities. Our post has been coed
since the mid-70s. When we have not had a woman as Advisor, we
have occasional cancellations because the youth (and the
Advisor) could not find a woman to provide the coed leadership.
For the past couple years we had two husband/wife teams as EA/AA
and AA/AA, so that has worked out better. After 20 years, we
have actually grown two of our own leaders, ladies who belonged
to the post as youth and stayed or returned as adults.
5. As a side question, why did BSA start Varsity Scouting if
its the same as a local team?
Varsity Teams were started as a (successful)
experiment by the LDS Church to meet the needs of their young men
within the structure of that church. They do not seem to have
caught on outside the LDS church in the rest of Scouting.
Several years ago, we also had Varsity teams and Venture crews
within the troop. A couple years ago, the Varsity team within
the troop was fairly quietly dropped. Varsity was not a success
in the broader Scouting marketplace.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City