Summary: 2nd Class Map and Compass question
Carl H. Russell, III (tijc02!JCENG2!RUSSCH@UUNET.UU.NET)
Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:25:47 -0500
Fellow members of Scouts-L; on 3 April, I posted the following:
>I wish to tap the collective wisdom of the list;
>Our Troop has several Scouts 'stuck' on 2nd class
> "Using a compass and a map you've drawn, take a 5 mile hike
> (or 10 miles by bike) approved by your adult leader and your
> parent or guardian."
>How does your Troop handle this requirement?
> Do your Scouts do this as individuals or as a group project?
> How do they draw the map with out taking the hike first?
> (We call this a 'chicken and egg' situation)
>Our Troop is trying to find a more organized way to help our Scouts
>complete this requirement - if you have a method that works well, we
>would really like to see if will work for us.
>To reduce list traffic, you may send your responses to the e-address
>below and I will summarize the answers to the list.
I had intended to extract relevant parts of the replies and post them
to the list. The extracts resulted in a file over 400 lines long! So
I will report the themes of the replies. If anyone is interested in
either the replies as received or my extracted version, please e-mail
your request to the address in the sig.
I would like to extend a BIG THANKS to all who took the time to reply:
Marc Godbout <andovercontrols.com!GodboutM@uunet.uucp>
"Roman J. Smith" <email@example.com>
"Don, Liz & Matt" <concentric.net!DScruggs@uunet.uucp>
(Thomas A Morrissey) firstname.lastname@example.org
Jim Peterson <email@example.com>
(Robert M Lewis) firstname.lastname@example.org
Peter Farnham <CapAccess.email@example.com>
"Paul H. Brown" <CapAccess.firstname.lastname@example.org>
Phil Brown <email@example.com>
Jim Sleezer <VM1.ucc.okstate.edu!JHS8@uunet.uucp>
Jim McMaster <firstname.lastname@example.org>
KIM MOYE <altair.dsccc.com!KMOYE@uunet.uucp>
"Callaway, Ray" <ATLANTA.DG.com!RCallaway@uunet.uucp>
Michael Holmes <pitnet.net!MHolmes@uunet.uucp>
Jeff Bloom : <email@example.com>
Daniel Woods <firstname.lastname@example.org>
"Peter K Kennon" <email@example.com>
Steve Grafstrom <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Kirk Barley <email@example.com>
Stan Johnson <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Michael J Pagelkopf <email@example.com>
(Chaplain Morrison) firstname.lastname@example.org
Kabel N. Stanwicks : aol.com!KStanwicks@uunet.uucp
Gary Nach <email@example.com>
The majority (19) drew the map before taking the hike. Most of these
used an existing map (topo, city, etc.) to be used as a guide for the
map the Scout would draw. Some included a session to build map and
compass skills before drawing the map. Drawing the map was done by
sketch, grid enlargement, or tracing. The route was either described
or taken from the master map.
The others would draw the map during or after the hike, using
distances and bearings and other notes taken.
The hike was either taken as a Troop or Patrol activity or with
parents. During the hike, the Scout's maps would be checked at major
features or at bearing changes. Maps would be corrected and/or
updated with notes to help others if they would use the maps.
After reviewing all the replies, my suggestion to my Troop will be as
1) Do on a Troop outing, have 'senior' Scouts lay out the course
using a map of the area while the Scouts needing the
requirement are reviewing map and compass skills.
2) Scouts draw the map using a description of the course and an
unmarked map, noting bearings and estimated distances on each
leg. Senior Scouts will check the individual maps against the
master map and assist with any corrections needed.
3) Take the hike in small groups so that each Scout can have
several opportunities to lead using his map and compass.
Others in the group will check the Scout taking lead. At
least one senior Scout and two adults will fill out each
group, with the senior Scout providing counsel for the group.
Maps should be updated and enhanced from landmarks during the
4) After the hike, have each group evaluate what they have done,
and what they would do differently if they were to do it
Again, THANKS to you all for your replys!
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