Re: EAGLE App and Religious "requirement"
Paul S. Wolf (Paul.S.Wolf@ALUM.WPI.EDU)
Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:56:20 -0400
First, Robert M Lewis wrote:
>>>> You do not need a signature or letter by a religous leader to pass
>>>> the BOR.
Jeff L. Glaze replied:
>>> This is incorrect, you must have five letters of reference with the
>>> Eagle application, among three required include the parent(s) letter
>>> and the religious leader's letter. An Eagle BOR may not be convened
>>> without the required letters of reference. Again, someone other
>>> than clergy may provide this letter including the Scout's parents,
>>> or as may have been done in your case, the Scoutmaster.
Then Dave Livingston wrote:
>> Curious if you or someone else on the list could give me the reference
>> for this, or could this be a local requirement? I've heard the letters
>> quoted many times, but in the Life to Eagle packet, they are not
>> mentioned. In fact, if you read the steps that are outlined in the
>> letter from Jere Ratcliffe, indicates that in fact it is a little bit
>> different (steps 4,5,6).
Chuck May replied:
> There is no National requirement for letters, and there is no such
> thing asa "local" requirement. The Eagle Application calls for the
> names and phone numbers of references. According to the Advancement
> Guidelines, the BOR is supposed to contact the references and collect
> their impressions of thecandidate. That is the only requirement. You
> cannot require him to submit written recommendations.
> That having been said, written recommendations are much easier to
> deal with. We strongly recommend to the candidates that the references
> be in writing, and explain that a BOR chairman who has just spent the
> past two weeks playing telephone tag with out-of-state references may
> not be the ideal chairman from the boy's perspective, so why not make
> it easier on the board? However, we cannot bounce an application
> without written references, under the "no more - no less" clause.
> (There have been long and heated discussions in the Council
> Advancement Committee on this issue, but the resolution is always
> the same).
Thanks Chuck. IMHO You've expressed the correct response on all counts.
If Jeff's Council is REQUIRING letters of recommendation, they are
exceeding the Advancement Guidelines, and if the BOR failed to meet,
the Scout could appeal to National and win his appeal.
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