Re: Board of Review
Mike Walton (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Sat, 5 Apr 1997 07:36:46 -0500
Wow, Marie...how ARE those Scouts receiving their ranks WITHOUT
a Board of Review?? What date are they placing on the Advancement
Reports? *You're confused?* I'm surprised that some kid's
parents hasn't complained until NOW!!
>For those of you with more expertise than myself, please explain
> to me the importance of the Board of Review (not the Eagle Board
> of Review).
The BSA explains it a whole lot better *and more concisely* than I:
This is from the BSA's Advancement Procedures booklet:
(I'm going to leave some out only for space reasons; the exact
wording is found on page 16 of the 1996 version of the booklet)
"A periodic review of the progress of a Scout is vital in the
evaluation of the effectiveness of the Scouting program in the
unit. The unit committee can judge how well the Scout being
reviewed is benefitting from the program. The unit leader can
measure the effectiveness of their leadership. The Scout can sense
that he is, or is not, advancing properly and can be encouraged to
make the most of his Scouting experience.
Not only is it important to review those Scouts who have learned
and been tested for a rank, but also to review those Scouts who
have shown no progress in their advancement over the past few
The review is not an examination; the board does not retest the
candidate. Rather, the board should attempt to determine the
Scout's attitude and his acceptance of Scouting's ideals.
*boldface* Scout spirit is defined as living the Scout Oath
(Promise) and Scout Law in a Scout's everyday life *end boldface* A
discussion of the Scout Oath and Law is in keeping with the purpose
of the review, to make sure that the candidate recognizes and
understands the value of Scouting in his home, school and
When a boy satistfactorily COMPLETES HIS BOARD OF REVIEW for a rank
or Eagle palm, TENURE FOR THE NEXT RANK or Eagle palm begins
>The rank sequence calls for a Scoutmaster Conference and a
>Board of Review. Increasingly, I find that we are awarding the
>rank without doing the Board of Review.
Then the Scout HAS NOT ADVANCED to the next rank. As you can see
above, TENURE BEGINS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE BOARD OF REVIEW.
NOT after the Scoutmaster's Conference, which is a requirement
within each rank "step".
>I am very bothered by this and have expressed my displeasure with
>the SM and the Advancement Chair. Neither seem to think it is a
You need to IMMEDIATELY contact your District Executive, AND your
Chairman of your unit's Committee....if they've been doing this for
a long time, Marie, your unit can really MESS UP a District's
Advancement figures AND keep a kid from getting Eagle!!
Yes, as you wrote later on, the Eagle Scout Service DOES check
those dates, and if those dates are WRONG or reflect something
really of "whack", a Scout's advancement to Eagle can be held up
for MONTHS while your Council figures out "what's been going on".
Now, back to my original two questions above:
What date are they placing on the Advancement Report?? The date of
the Scoutmaster's Conference or the date of the Board of Review?
Who's signing these Advancement Reports as "members of the Board of
and a new question, Where does the Scoutmaster get off awarding
advancements WITHOUT an Advancement report submitted to the Council
What you've explained here describes a "breakdown" at several
links in your Unit and District:
*The Scoutmaster is either unaware or does not care (probably on
the "do not care" end, since you've brought this up before) that he
CANNOT award a rank until the kid earns it...and the kid doesn't
earn it until the Board of Review was conducted and he's completed
and passed it (there's NO guarantee that a Board of Review will
approve ALL boys' advancement to the next step; it's NOT a "rubber
stamp" for whatever the Scoutmaster says)!!
*The Committee is weak or nonexistant, because after the first
couple of times at this "end run", SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOU would
have immediately corrected this
*You have a weak or nonexistant Commissioner. This person is
essential in matters like this, because he or she could have easily
coached the Scoutmaster and told him "hey, that's NOT the way the
BSA says we need to do this....the kid needs the Board of Review
for EACH rank.
*The Council has really missed the chance to HOLD UP on all
purchases of rank and cards until the Advancement Reports are in
to their office. In most Councils, you can't even BUY a rank or
get a card for the Scout UNTIL you turned over to them a signed and
completed Advancement report. You get the unit copy back with the
card and the rank patches.
That's why I'm saying, Marie, you need to involve your District
Exec AND your Unit Chair in this matter AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. They,
together with you and others, can fix this matter before it gets
uncontrollable and results in a kid having to wait 6-9 weeks for
his Eagle instead of the current 3-5 weeks!!
>Am I making more out of this than I should be? Should I just
>chill out and not get so hyper? Or are my concerns legitimate.
No, your concerns are VERY MUCH legit and you SHOULD NOT "chill
out" until your Scoutmaster, Troop Committee Chair, Advancement
Chair AND other members of your Committee get and understand the
Scout Advancement process. You don't need the BSA Advancement
policies booklet; the same process is explained in that
Scoutmasters' Handbook on page 98. Note what it says on the BOTTOM
of that page, Marie: I'm going to "scream it" only for emphasis:
"STEP 4 - The Scout is recognized
ONCE A SCOUT HAS BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE BOARD OF REVIEW, HE SHOULD
BE AWARDED HIS NEW BADGE OF RANK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE -- NORMALLY IN
(page 99) A CEREMONY STAGED BY THE TROOP AT ITS NEXT REGULAR
MEETING. NO BOY SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT WEEKS OR MONTHS BEFORE GETTING
THE BADGE HE WORKED SO HARD ON."
Hope that helps out, Marie!!
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City