Re: Fw: How do you dismiss a SM
Mike Walton (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Tue, 1 Apr 1997 11:41:57 -0500
Cliff Golden affirmed what I wrote earlier:
>The head of the chartering organization can remove any adult
>leader for any reason from their unit. The committee can vote,
>but the vote doesn't mean anything if the head of the chartering
>organization does not agree.
This was put into the BSA's chartering rules for a reason, and
a very valid one. Let's say that everyone in the unit cannot STAND
a particular Scouter, but this person's very effective in what he
or she does. So, the Unit's Committee all get together and "vote
him out". Only problem is, that under today's BSA policies, they
had done nothing but expressed their displeasure at this person,
and have "placed this person on notice". The ACTUAL action is done
by the Chartered Organizational Representative, acting on behalf of
the Chartered Partner Head. In most Councils, the Council Scout
Executive will ONLY "listen to" and act upon whatever the HEAD of
the Chartering body says, no matter if both COR and CH (COR is
Chartered Organizational Representative; CH is Chartering Head for
those suffering from "scratchy-head disease" from wondering what
the abbrevations meant!) agreed on the same action.
Likewise, at the start of each chartering year, the head of your
chartering partner or the COR "signs the charter" and crosses off
(or this SHOULD be happening) those Scouters that they DO NOT
WANT re-registered with the unit and approving the new Scouters
by signing the appropriate line on each application. Like I
mentioned earlier, no signature in most Councils, the person
doesn't get registered. Period.
Check with your Commissioner to see EXACTLY which of the two
situations apply in *your Council*. But ONE or the OTHER applies.
>If the violation is severe enough, a person can be removed from
>the Scouting program altogether. That would involve professional
In particular, it involves the Council Scout Executive, which is
the ONLY person in your local Council that can remove a member or
leader for ANY reason...and it sticks, by placing that person's
name on a list of "undesirable members" and instructing the BSA's
Registration Service to "mark the registration" of the Scout or
Scouter. It remains there until either successfully appealed or
another Council Scout Executive requests that it be taken off.
>Check your charter. Whoever is listed as head of your chartering
>organization is the person with the power to remove the
Again, the person that "hires" can "fires", and ONLY that person.
We work within Scouting at the pleasure of others, not ourselves.
That honor can be taken quickly and easily away with one signature.
So, whatever your COR and Committee chooses to do, please do so
with respect to the person involved and with the program in mind.
Leave your *personal preferences*, as I tried to write earlier, out
of it. It has no place.
Thanks, Cliff, for letting me "piggyback" onto your great posting!
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City