Re: angry eagle wanna-be
Peter Kennon (Peter_Kennon@MSN.COM)
Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:57:36 UT
You are right. He does not derisive the Eagle award. Eagle is reserved for the
scout that commit a great deal of their life to scouting. It is not meet to be
a neutral flow from life to Eagle. Eagle is earned by the scout by showing
that he deserves scouting highest award. It is the only award where the scout
has to take a very active role in earring it. You are also wrong in saying his
project was approved, his plans were approved. From the sound of his project,
I don't think any council or district advancement committee would approve the
project's results. This scout does not sound like has in any way meet the
requirements. If his parents suggest that you bend the requirement in
violation of the scout law, I would not do it.
Just a thought from an Eagle Scout
Peter Kennon Peter_Kennon@msn.com
Eagle Class 1997
JASM Troop 171 Indianhead Council
SPL Jamboree Troop 1035
Medic, Crew Chief Eagan (MN) Fire Explorer Post
Staff 1997 Indianhead Council Silver Path Finder JLTC
From: Scouts-L Youth Group List on behalf of LINDA K CLOSSEN
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 1997 01.59
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: angry eagle wanna-be
An angry Scout approached me with this problem and I told him that I
would get some advice from fellow Scouters to help us both.
This Scout is 15 years old been in the program since Tiger Cubs.
Made Life three years ago and has been siting there ever since.
His Dad is the Committee Chairman.
Last August, I approached him about starting to think about his Eagle
He said o.k.
After several weeks without hearing from him, I set a meeting only
to find that he had not given it any other thought or work.
That was fine with me.
Mom and Dad really started pushing.
He filled out the application, with an idea for a project and set a
It got O.k'd.
He did nothing until three days before the project.
It was a semi-dud of a project because there really was no advance
work or advertisement (Clothing drive)
He had three Merit badges to finish each with one requirement to go.
Has not done them yet.
So, now it's almost March.
He is upset that I will not consider his six months of Senior Patrol
Leadership for his eagle requirements and am making him take another
six months of a leadership position.
During his SPL term, he took off two months for football and was
replaced by his ASPL, during the six months he did not attend any
camp-outs, PLC meetings, fund raisers.
When he did attend the meetings, he was more of a hand full than the
new 11 year old Scouts!
He and his Dad seem to feel that if I really tried, I could pick and
choose six months of leadership during his three years of Life rank
to fulfill this obligation.
I don't feel that I can do it.
I fact I won't do it.
I don't think that he has fulfilled his obligations to become and
wear the rank of Eagle.
I told this to him and his Dad.
Dad says that his son will give it one last try and if it doesn't
work this time he is quitting.
It is now one month into his supposed SPL second term and a have
He has not done a thing as the SPL
The meetings are being run by the ASPL because he assigned him to do
For the PLC meeting, he had set up the meeting time with me two weeks
He called the members of the council 20 minutes before the meeting
and told them it was mandatory for them to be there!
He has not participated in any other activities and now tells me he
has a job and can not participate in any other weekend activities and
can only come to meetings that are planned on Tuesdays.
Help me help him!
Right now he hates me because I am not advancing him!
Yours in Scouting,
Scoutmaster, Linda K. Clossen
Gerald R. Ford Council
Grand Rapids, Michigan
...I used to be sane...
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City