Re: Blue & Gold door prizes
J/C Porter (jcporter@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:33:29 -0600
patrick Driscoll wrote:
> Hello all;
> Cathy said she thought that a by-law prohibiting more than two door
> prizes to a family was a good start.
Yikes, Patrick. You take one lil ol' line from my post and act like
it's the whole dang point! Now that's just being ugly. <g>
While I admire and respect and even like
> this Native Texan, I find that I disagree with her, this one time.
Yeah, yeah, me too, yada yada yada...but I've just got to say this.
The one line that you have snatched from my post and held up for all to
pay attention to *wasn't the point!*
The point was (and still is) that I thought the Pack needed to address
the actual physical drawing of numbers. My reading of the original post
is that one person did all of it, from getting the prizes to reading the
numbers she drew. That's just too much control for one person. To
protect the pack and the person in charge of the drawing, some extra
eyes and hands need to be added.
I just don't see the point of punishing everyone for what you admit
> be an astounding coincidence.
Yes, I admit that. I also think it's in the realm of possibility that
she **cheated!** But I had two reasons for saying it was a good start.
The main one is that the original post said that the committee had
already taken this step. It was a done deal. _I_ didn't feel the need
to argue this. It wasn't my point and I thought someone else would get
their panties in a wad over it anyway. And I was right. <VBG>
The second reason was one that lot of people on this list have heard me
belabor and I didn't want to trot it out again. But, (it's all your
fault Pat) now I gotta! A treasurer stole a lot of money from my pack.
Part of the reason she was able to is that she had too much control and
that our committee was in deep denial that someone we all knew so well
would stoop so low. So I said it was a good start thinking that they,as
a committee, have at least acknowledged the possibility of a problem.
Whether the exact step they took is going to work out or be reworked is
also not my point. The realization that there could be a problem was,
to me, the important part.
> I don't know... It is too easy to set up door prize drawings in such a
> way that they are fair or honest. Why go farther than that?
Yes, you're right. It is easy to set them up to be fair and honest.
This pack may have stumbled there, never dreaming that someone would
cheat over door prizes, for cryin' out loud! But there have been
threads here about treasurers ripping off Troop and Packs and parents of
Girl Scouts pocketing the cookie money. Dishonesty happens over the
smallest things. This pack is probably trying to work through some
difficult things right now, including the did-she-or-didn't-she issue.
I have an alterior motive. In the past two years at Round-table,
> or I have had our numbers drawn at almost every single meeting. Often we both
> win! I don't think the staff is trying to win us with tie slides.
So, what this is really about is your guilt feelings! Or wanting to
share your extrordinary luck? Pat, Pat, Pat...your RT staff has been
rigging those things for two years now, wondering how long it will take
you to catch on! Oops - guess I let that cat out of the bag. <g>
> Patrick Driscoll Time flies like the wind but fruit flies like bannanas.
> CM P244
> Alamo Area Council
My tag line has to do with bananas too! Actually, it's pretty
appropriate for this whole exchange. *hehehehehe*
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