Re: The boys must bend over backwards...AGAIN...
Rodger Morris (rodger@FISHNET.NET)
Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:29:49 -0800
At 08:51 AM 2/13/97 -0800, you wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Mary Beth Murphy wrote:
>> that Girl Scouts would cease to exist if girls were allowed in Cubs.
>> the members of this list desire a continuance of same-sex organizations, so
>> maybe GSUSA would still fill a need.
>So, correct me if I am wrong, but what is being suggested
>here is that
>while the BSA (packs and troops) be required to allow in girls.. the
>GSUSA continue to exist for those who desire and all girl organization..
The BSA has been co-ed for quite some time now. What is at issue is whether
or not to extend full membership in the BSA at all levels to girls as we
did to women.
This works for the Exploradores de Mexico, the Scouts de Espana, El
Movimiento Scout Catolico de Espana, and Los Scouts de Catalunya.
I am sure that there are other members of WOSM that have similar
stories to tell, as evidenced by the fact that about 42% of the Boy
Acouts encamped at the World Jamboree in Dronten, the Netherlands,
In Mexico, there are about 2000 Girl Guides, and about 60,000-70,000
Boy Scouts, about a third of whom are girls. Thus, there are more than
10 female Boy Scouts in Mexico for every Girl Guide. The proportions
are even more lopsided in Spain, there there are several hundred thousand
Boy Scouts and only about 2,000 Girl Guides. Again, about a third of the
Boy Scouts are female.
In Mexico, there are separate girl and boy units. In Spain, there are
mostly co-ed units, with some all-boy and all-girl units.
>What about those who desire an all boy organization....?
Under the BSA organizational paradigm, the BSA owns the program and the
sponsoring institution owns the unit. Within broad limits, the sponsoring
institution may set its own policies.
Thus, in the past 25 years since girls were admitted to Exploring,
sponsoring institutions that wish an all-boy Exploring program are free
to run one. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a good
example of this policy in action. All of their Explorer Posts composed
only of boys. There are also some all-girl Explorer Posts.
There is no reason to think that this paradigm will change any time soon,
as it has served us well for slightly over a quarter of a century.
So, the short answer is that you can have an all-boy unit, even if the
BSA admits girls into the Cub Scout Division and the Boy Scout Division
of the BSA.
Yours in Scouting,
Rodger Morris <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Scoutmaster, Troop 852 Wood Badge 416-18
Ventura County Council at Philmont, 1973
Camarillo, California, USA "I used to be a Beaver..."
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