Re: GS vs. BSA
Aaron Larch (ppp226e@MAIN.CITYNET.NET)
Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:59:02 +0000
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> Hello to everyone,
> I have been a member of the group for about eight months, and have
> found many of the conversations quite interesting. However,
> although I have learned quite a few things from this group and have
> kept silent I feel that I would like to express my feelings on this
> matter. I am an Eagle Scout with bronze, silver, and gold palms, a
> Vigil Member of the Order of the Arrow, Lodge of Chief of
> Chi-Hoota-Wei Lodge #617, Assistant Scoutmaster of troop 195 in So.
> Charleston WV, and also an Assistant Scoutmaster of troop 32 in
> Huntington WV. I sit on the district committee, council camping
> committee, chapter executive board for the OA in my area, and sit on
> and attend the COC meetings for the section. This may seem like a
> short list of positions compared to what some of you others have, but
> that won't stop me from writing about this. I wrote to the Yokels
> who were screaming to take God, and the Pledge of Alligence out of
> the BSA and this as far as I'm concerned is about the same level.
> Boys, at the age when they are involved with the program of actual
> Boy Scouts, not cubs are at a stage in their life that most of them
> are confused, and not sure what to do next. They have new feelings
> and self-concept problems, they are now starting to think of girls
> as beings different from themselves(aka in a sexual manner in most
> cases.) If you were to put them together in groups with girls like
> in school, then when are they supposed to have time to grow with male
> bonding(I know cheesy term)? When are they supposed to be
> themselve? Case in point, when I was still a scout we got a female
> assistant, she is a wonderful person, and I feel as close to her as
> any of the leaders, but when she went on her first(and last) campout
> the boys had NO fun, they were too nervous that they may say or do
> something to offend her. If there were other girls around as well
> they wouldn't have as much fun either.
> >From point A boys are taught to respect girls, and that girls are
> delicate compared to boys. We are taught to protect them, and when
> around them to use the best manners that we have. I know that most
> boys don't show this on an everyday basis but still it is in there in
> the backs of their minds ready to spring forth at any given moment.
> So you lose that openness that you get when it's just "the guys".
> Boys are much less likely to talk about their problems when there are
> girls around then when they're with other guys. Boys, are supposed
> to be strong in front of women( or so we're all taught) we are not
> supposed to have problems that we can't fix or not be able to be the
> hero of the day. Steryotypical I know, but the truth is that is how
> most guys feel.
> I have many friends outside of scouting that are girls, as a matter
> of a fact my Best friend is a girl. When I come back from a weekend
> of white-water canoeing on the New River, or Climbing at Seneca
> Rocks, most of them say something along the lines of "When I was in
> Girl Scouts we never did anything like that...", or "Man, I wish I
> were a Boy Scout and did stuff like that..." so I tell them to go
> join an explorer post. That's right Girls we let you in when you're
> older. That was the BSA's comitment to the whole co-ed thing. What
> did the GS do?
> BSA tries to teach leadership, careing for your fellow man,
> cooperation, and many other skills that are used in everyday life. I
> know that girls need just as much training in this as the boys do, I
> have a sister and my family won't let her join the GS because they
> don't do anything like that around here. They don't even recite the
> Pledge of Alligence anymore because it makes reference to God, nor do
> they meet in churches because that could be offensive to some girls.
> We teach a Scout to be REVERENT to God. Girls need to learn this as
> well, however it needs to come from their peers(women) whom they feel
> more comfortable with. I
> I'm tired of writing for now, but I'll be back with more of my
> opinion later. I know that some of you won't like my opinion, and
> that is fine just remember that opinions are like brains, and that
> everyone has got one.
> Aaron Larch
> Vigil Member OA- Witscheman: Helpful One
> Lodge Chief Chief, Chi-Hoota-Wei #617
> Assistant Scoutmaster T-195 So. Chas.
> Assistant Scoutmaster T-32 Huntington
> District Committee Member
> *Eagle Scout, BSA*
> The one who finds his path and follows it looks not only
> ahead to where he is going, but also behind to where he
> has been.
The one who finds his path and follows it looks not only
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