Help with Cubs (loooong - sorry)
Laurie Pierce (Laurie640@AOL.COM)
Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:14:03 -0500
I had previously posted as LaurieP@cyberbury.net, we changed back to the
*slow <g> service of AOL and somehow I lost my scouts list in the change.
You have all been generous in your help and suggestions in the past and I
find myself once agian seeking help, guidance and wisdom of den
leaders/cubmasters etc. once again.
I have previously posted regarding and received help on presentation of rank,
Tiger help etc. so some of you may remember me. My oldest received his Bear
Badge at our November pack meeting (and is the only child in the pack to
receive rank prior to the Blue and Gold tomorrow :-( ).
I am presently upset at the way things are going in our pack. I am aware I
am not the only person who is unhappy - and I also know appear to be one of
the only persons saying anything about it.
I have three sons aged 8, 7 (next month) and 2. I'm presently a (ha,ha)
Tiger Coach - (was told last week our pack isn't doing this correctly
either...- by very nice regional coach - she was encouraging). My oldest is
a Bear now and I have heard that his leaders *will be quitting after this
year... My second son is a Tiger and I'm so fed up with things I'm ready to
drop out myself - I *really am seeking *help and support again regarding
this. If I say anything out of line *please do tell me. (I am also working
with almost 20 boys in our pack on their Catholic religious programs -
another person had wanted to do this on her own - I had her set up with
training and the ball dropped and I just found out that no one was doing
anything about this by accident - ran into a committee person at the scout
I guess what I'm trying to say is - I am willing to help out and do the best
I possibly can to make scouting a memorable and enjoyable program for the
boys in our pack. I really didn't have any fun putting together the above
religious program in one week (and then have several kids call wishing to
participate after the fact - but I *did do the best I could).
In planning on becoming a Den leader next year for Wolves (and ending up
running our Tigers as a Den per say) I have purchased the Cub Scout Leader
Book and the book also on Belt Loops (yes, I also had asked why Tigers
couldn't - I understand now they aren't Cub Scouts :-) ). As a person who
loves to read I have read much of the leaders book and find that our pack
doesn't do many of the things in the book. All ranks are given out at the
Blue and Gold (if the boys have completed them by January). The Blue and
Gold is held as an award ceremony with hired entertainment - I can't say I
remember hearing one word last year of it being a *Birthday of Boy Scouting.
I have also purchased the Tiger Coach/Pack Book and the Activity Book for
Tigers - In it they suggest the boys should receive their Bobcat in May/June.
My Cubmaster is adament that there will be only *one Bobcat ceremony and
that will not be until Sept or Oct.... I had given her the books so she
could see how the Tiger program is/was to be run and she never looked at them
:-( . I had spoken with the parents in our den and we had thought running
some den meetings during the summer would be good. I had *thought if they
start their Wolf trail (I'm *hoping to grab the active Tiger parents and keep
them busy right along the trail) in June they would have June, July, August,
Sept and into October to complete there Wolf trail - therefore allowing them
to receive their rank at the November meeting. After that I *thought to work
on Arrow points (there are enough of them), and Belt loops - trying to have
parents volunteer to work on some of these projects with the den (i.e. dad
who likes to fish - work on Fishing Belt loop etc.). I also thought about
adopting an elderly *grandparent - who perhaps we could visit (maybe sing
some of those silly Halloween songs that were floating around last October).
I *do have lots of ideas to keep them busy.
My questions for today are :-)
Who exactly is supposed to decide when the boys receive their rank badges - I
thought the leaders book was rather clear (first pack meeting after acheiving
How long do presentation ceremonies take for those of you who do mulitple
rank awards at pack meetings - are they really that time consuming? (I
shoule add here that names are called at the Blue and Gold by one person and
someone else hands out rank badges so it isn't any fancy ceremony at this
Are my thought lines for a successful, busy Wolf den all that crazy? I seem
to remember hearing some people say they did run their dens in such a way -
can I hear from you again - Please!!!
I'd also like to see some kind of Pack Belt Loop program set up - I asked the
person in charge of advancement etc. if boys working on Science experiments
and having a Science Fair in school would be able to receive their Science
Belt loop (they seem to be working on most everything listed/suggested in the
Science book. I was told yes. Well - that means all the Bear Cubs should
receive these belt loops then as the whole third grade is working on the
above - am I correct?
Please send me all your thoughts, ideas and opinions. I hope to have one of
the Assistant Cub Masters over next week for coffee and she also would like
borrow my leaders book. :-) She also asked to see how this Round Table
on-line works. I beleive she will be taking over as Cubmaster in our Pack
and hope she does - she has many exciting ideas and she did help me out so
that my oldest was allowed to receive his Bear rank last November (therefore
receiving it when earned and not waiting for three more months).
One more thing.... I keep hearing that they like to give out the advancement
all at once so none of the boys feel left out. I thought Scouting was about
leadership and doing your best? All children don't get A's (or C's) and all
children don't complete projects at the same time. IMO, your not teaching
leadership qualities to kids by being politically correct. I know with my
own children (and catechism class), no one wants to be left behind - however
if they see someone else moving ahead :-) They sure try harder to complete
whatever they're working on - and usually doing a great job.
Sorry it's so long (really)
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City