Doug Roach (djroach@IX.NETCOM.COM)
Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:47:13 -0500
I'm just questioning the representation issue of Scouts in uniform
supporting money-making schemes for other organizations. I don't think
we'd allow a uniformed Scout to go to Wal-Mart and try to sell
There's a difference, you say? Yes, I agree, but WHAT is the difference
and does the BSA agree?
(I saw Scouts at Wal-Mart last week selling Scout show tickets.VBG)
The difference is, I think, the "money-making scheme" and the group
If an organization asked Scouts in uniform to represent the interests of
that organization and not the Scouts own community, or the values
engendered in the Scouting movement,I would agree. No chance there.
But at what point does political correctness or a concern for
appearances supplant "A Scout is Helpful" or "...to help other people at
all times..."? If the community responsibility role of BSA and it's
members is limited to exclusively BSA sponsored events or projects, are
we not relegating ourselves to an elitist role that will poorly reflect
on community support for the program? (i.e. "Well, we asked the Boy
Scouts to help with the Rotary fund-raiser for the fire department but
they said they couldn't be identified with any project except their
Any person who decides to take umbrage at a Boy Scout volunteering an
effort to raise funds for or otherwise benefit a respected community
service organization is probably the same person that has little concept
of civic-mindedness anyway. It's too bad that such people place more
value on appearance than action but I still could hardly care less what
such a person thinks of BSA. The POINT is the benefit to the common
weal. The uniform does NOT belong to the critic, it belongs to the
boy...he has earned the right to wear it proudly when he performs a
selfless act. The POINT is the sense of helping that the boy gets from a
generous volunteering of his time. The POINT is that that act as a
thirteen year-old may grow to become a heightened sense of community
spirit as an adult.
The Salvation Army sponsors Scout groups. Are THOSE sponsoring
organizations to be denied help if they ask it? Do the boys have to
show up in civvies to ring the bell because some hypersensitive Scrooge
may be watching?
Of course, that represents only MHO (not being manager like Jim :-), and
likely does NOT reflect that of the majority of the list or of BSA.
Heck, for all I know, it may not even reflect the opinion of my own
I wouldn't presume to volunteer any boys in my charge without their
input. I mean, it's THEIR time.
But if the Salvation Army here ever asks, I'll put on MY shirt.
By the way, Monte, my family passed through Ft. Collins this past summer
on a camping trip. Great town!
SA Troop 10, EA Ship 10
South Florida Council
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City