Opinions versus facts
Tom Petrik (EC92@AOL.COM)
Wed, 4 Dec 1996 02:25:54 -0500
As usual, everyone's _opinion_ is so important here that they refuse to sit
down and read the forms and learn the facts.
And then they scream and holler at whoever told them they were wrong.
A simple point: Quality Unit _does not_ have to be earned at recharter.
Doesn't say that anyplace, doesn't require that anyplace. And if you don't
recharter during a year - if for some reason you paid for more than a year of
registration - you can earn the award after 12 months have passed since the
The form merely lets you see the places where you fall behind and then lets
you come up to being a quality unit.
Don't interpret the form yourself to fit what you think you know, _read it_.
I've never seen so many complaints since the last debate about advancement
where so many of you stated over and over what you _thought_ was right,
whether it was because it was what your council did or it was what you did.
And so many of you were wrong I got tired of having to correct people, state
_my_training and why _I_ knew the correct answer, only to be ripped again by
people who are so sure of themselves they can't be bothered to read, _and not
interpret it to fit their way _ the advancement manual.
In the situation regarding Quality Units, whoever read the statement -and I
have to paraphrase it here because its too late at night to go out in the
snow and get the manuals - 'it is suggested that the commissioner visit the
unit a month after rechartering and complete the Quality Unit form'; and
turned that into "It has to be done at recharter", _is wrong_. If the unit
doesn't complete Quality Unit at that time they have the rest of the year to
do so. Not the rest of the time to the next recharter, the rest of the
Enough, I've had it. My son's ham radio friends call whats going on here "rag
chewing" and I tried to open your eyes to realize that the movement of one
little asterisk isn't going to change your entire life. The things should
_probably_ float from requirement to reguirement from time to time anyways.
I've got to have 15 QU's to make Quality District. We went to uniform
recharter dates in 1994 but too late for it to bother my units until 1997.
Which means they all paid from 1995 to 1997. Which according to all of you
would mean they could not complete the award at all in 1996 since they didn't
recharter that year. I was a Quality District in 1995.
Well, I'm going to find 3 more QU's to match the 12 I've already got and have
a quality district, whether you think I can or not. No more time to chew
these awful tasting rags anyways.
So everyone leaves me alone, my credentials include time as:
Cubmaster, Assistant Cubmaster, Assistant Den Leader, Assistant Webelos
Leader, Webelos Leader, two stints as ASM in two different councils, Unit
Commissioner in two other councils, SM, Associate Advisor, Service Team
Chair, ADC, Training Team, Advancement Committee, and District Committee. I
wear 10 Knots and two devices until May when it'll change, I've been
registered since I was 8, and my last four summers included 5 trips to
Philmont Training Center. I've been a Lodge Treasurer, Chief, and then went
to another council and was a vice-chief, Vigil in 1975, Woodbadge in 1976.
I'm the only person you can look at who's under 40 who probably could wear
that "overtrained" strip the old guys put on and actually have it mean
something. And if you're wrong, whether its advancement, O.A., Exploring, or
now Quality Units, I'm your worst nightmare, because I actually read and
understand these books and manuals. To top it off I've got a Bachelors and
Masters at a Commissioner's College. And I'm deleting any message that refers
to Quality Units starting immediately.
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City